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Keep it as is

3 (12%)

Change it to a full Jester, with game-end on win

1 (4%)

Change it to a full Jester, but without game-end on win

5 (20%)

Change it to a full Jester, with game-end on win AFTER day 3

3 (12%)

Change it to a Jester with the loss of the Next Day phase

4 (16%)

Remove it entirely

9 (36%)

Other (explain)

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 25

[Mephansteras]

Ok, Ghost is unquestionably overpowered. Here are some thoughts I have on how to change the Ghost.

Option 1) Remove the role entirely
Option 2) Add another Ghost role: Twisted Spirit. The Twisted Spirit changes alignment upon death and seeks to help the Doppelgangers win. There will be no way to determine what type of Ghost is in play. Only one Ghost can show up per game.
Option 3) Switch the Ghost's ability. Instead of being able to talk but not Vote, the Ghost will be able to Vote but not post or PM people.

Preferences? Other thoughts?

[Archangel]

Well, my preference is option one.

[Org]

Well, then he can vote for 3, but only to vote. No talking other than vote. Or he PMs you.

[Mephansteras]

Well, then he can vote for 3, but only to vote. No talking other than vote. Or he PMs you.

He can PM me with his vote.

[inaluct]

I like option 2.

[Mephansteras]

Here is my thought in general on the next round:

Change or Remove Ghost
Remove Agent Seeker
Add in Alien Operative and Scientist
Add in Child

Thoughts?

[R1ck]

Here is my thought in general on the next round:

Change or Remove Ghost
Remove Agent Seeker
Add in Alien Operative and Scientist
Add in Child

Thoughts?

Seems pretty good to me.

I have a idea for a minor change: Reveal what gadget a mad scientist had when they die. Otherwise, there's really no way of telling what they might have done while they were still living. Then again, I suppose it adds to the mystery a bit...

[Mephansteras]

That'd be easy enough to do, I suppose. And it doesn't ruin anything, so I'm fine with it.

[Archangel]

Why remove the agent seeker?

[Pandarsenic]

If he strikes a deal with the town base he becomes a second AWV.

[Servant Corps]

And I wish I knew of that when I was the Agent Seeker. As it stood, I thought of myself as an Exterminator Alien, not as an AMV.

There is a fix to the Agent Seeker, if the Agent Seeker targets a Dopp, the Agent Seeker is the one that dies along with the Dopp. The Agent Seeker still kills the Dopps, but he does not accomplish is goal of, you know, meeting up with the Agent.

[Solifuge]

What if he targets a Doppleganger Agent?

I'd second removing the Agent-Seeker. Dopple-Seeker is fun though.
Also, I'm going to repost the Ghost Suggestion I gave to Meph in the Dopple Chat:

I'd agree that the Ghost is extremely powerful, and needs nerfing. I think that limiting the Ghost's ability to appear to one single day, as a power they can use after their Death, which would temporarily remove them from Dead Chat to speak on their behalf would be good. That, or replace them with a role that resurrects immediately on death (Zombie? Poltergeist?), but which doen't fully role-flip, and who could be a Dopple/Alien/Townie. They would then die at the end of the day, or perhaps require a re-lynch (better to use Zombie for that style). Then, after their second death, they would do a True Role-Flip.

[Servant Corps]

What if he targets a Doppleganger Agent?

Then you will talk to the Agent and ignore the fact that he's a Doppelganger Plant.

On second thought, removal does seem to be worthwhile. I do think I need to resurrect my Alien Mafia to test out new roles...

[JoshuaFH]

Twisted spirit sounds MIGHTY FINE if you ask me. Not being able to tell means that roleclaiming to him is a liability, not an advantage. Plus, a twisted spirit would have to put up a pretty awesome masquerade to lead the dopps to victory, since he wouldn't know who he was or vice-versa.

One thing I found odd: in the order of priority schema that Meph laid out, the priorities of actions go as follows:

Roleblockers
protectors
investigators (includes dopp seeker)
Nightkills (includes agent seeker)

The problem here is that it creates a logical paradox in one very specific scenario, which is that a dopp protector, abducted by a dopp seeker, is still able to protect, despite not physically being there.

Also, Meph, can you re-elaborate on the difference between an alien operative and scientist?

[Pandarsenic]

Actually, it goes:

Doppleganger Hunter
Roleblocker
Protector
Investigator
Nightkiller