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Keep it as is

3 (12%)

Change it to a full Jester, with game-end on win

1 (4%)

Change it to a full Jester, but without game-end on win

5 (20%)

Change it to a full Jester, with game-end on win AFTER day 3

3 (12%)

Change it to a Jester with the loss of the Next Day phase

4 (16%)

Remove it entirely

9 (36%)

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0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 25

[Zathras]

Wow... not only not as powerful, but it has the Instant Gratification component that made them so much fun removed... It's not nearly as dramatic to go from "Oh, yeah? YEAH? Well, IN YO' FACE!",  to "Oh yeah?.. Well, I will stew over my displeasure, and will kill you for sure in 24 to 72 hours! Just you wait!"

Needless to say, I liked the first version better. Yeah, I saw it did break some older games, especially approaching lylo, but still, I will not forget that game when Pandar opened day one with "All of you SHUT UP! I'VE GOT A BOMB!..... AAAuuugggfhhh!!! *plonk*" as someone called his bluff with a bot right away. That was awesome and I'll miss it.



PS:

It's Morning. You'd declare that you were using the item as your Night Action and they'd die AFTER all of the night actions had occurred. So it's not as powerful as before.

Then the description should read "between night and day", rather than the reverse... just sayin'.

[Mephansteras]

Ok, I changed it.

[Leafsnail]

On the other hand, it seems it's still unblockable, untracable, a lylo breaker and undefendable.

Yeah, it's still good.

[Criptfeind]

Huh. I just realized, who would want to kill a spore spreader? Town don't because that will take power roles away from them, scum don't because it only hurts town and not them...

Edit: Idea! Have the spore spreader be a joker, it has to 'breed' to win.

[Mephansteras]

That's exactly what the spore spreader is. A Jester. It needs to trick people into lynching it while avoiding being night-killed by dopps or exterminators.

[Criptfeind]

But like, formally.

As it is a spore spreader only wins if one is alive at the end, I was thinking it wins as soon as it dies, if it is alive at the end it loses.

It sounds funny to me. But I don't know anything about game balance or mechanics or what not.

[Mephansteras]

A normal Jester wins when they die. The Spore spreader is a bit different, in that it makes MORE jesters when it dies. So to balance that I made it so that at least one Spore Spreader needs to be alive at the end of the game for them to win.

[Criptfeind]

Okay dokay.

That makes sense.

[forsaken1111]

With the frequency with which I get lynched in this game, I would make an amazing jester.

[Leafsnail]

Could they just claim once one spore spreader is down?  I don't see any reason anyone would want them dead.

[Mephansteras]

Could they just claim once one spore spreader is down?  I don't see any reason anyone would want them dead.

Dopps want them dead same as any other town, really. As do exterminators. And a Spore Spreader has no ability to stop a night kill, so it'd be a 'safe' kill, assuming that it wasn't a trick of some sort.

[forsaken1111]

Could they just claim once one spore spreader is down?  I don't see any reason anyone would want them dead.

If you claim you get night killed and don't get to spread your spore, if I understand it correctly. You want to be the last ones standing.

[Leafsnail]

Dopps want them dead same as any other town, really. As do exterminators. And a Spore Spreader has no ability to stop a night kill, so it'd be a 'safe' kill, assuming that it wasn't a trick of some sort.

So... a potential scum ally claims, and you kill them?

Plus, they have no abilities full stop.  It's like going for a vanilla townie that could be on your side when you probably have cops, docs and all sorts of other stuff to worry about.

[Mephansteras]

How are they a potential scum ally? The Spore Spreader loses if the Dopps win.

And I just meant that while a Spore Spreader could convert a Human Vig who attacked it, it has no effect on dopps or aliens.

[Leafsnail]

Hmm... in that case, I guess there's a kindof "confirmed townie" element.  Yeah, ok.