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[Neonivek]

I dunno if i like making mountains destructible.  If the idea about two types of mountains was used, maybe changing it from unpassable to passable?  Not destroying a mountain, but drilling a pass through the impassable bits?

Well, yeah a pass (for the better drills)... Or at least any minerals ontop of a mountain when you drill it gives you the minerals.

[niltrias]

That would be good too.

[Shoku]

Well, rather than making mountains impassible we could make them very dangerous terrain without an experienced climber (any place with snow has all kinds of ways for it to fall out from underneath you and there are a variety of outer pitfalls with dangerous mountain terrain,) such as, perhaps the pilot?

Now instead of some sort of speed penalty or necessarily an item requirement mountains can become something you've already got code for: gas clouds. You could still have items involved with a climbing kit with rope and crampons and such being maybe a little more expensive than binoculars but in the same sort of price range and offering a bonus to mountain navigation and with jetpacks offering a much larger bonus. Perhaps gas clouds and mountains could have distinct difficulties (gas clouds could just be split into two groups with light colors being less dangerous than dark more dangerous but mountains would need a different symbol ((is V flipped an option?)) if you wanted it to be that visible.)

Though the perils of difficult to navigate terrain are perilous often because those who cannot navigate them precisely because they cannot detect them. For an expert pilot you could have the gas clouds show specific colors while for lesser pilots they'd cycle starting from whatever the minimum danger he thinks it is up through the rest of the colors. Upon inspection (by the pilot) you could display similar colors for any particular set of mountains or maybe the ones nearby but remove it to keep the mountains looking like mountains (and it's not like we go into gas clouds so often that it would be too much of a pain to spend a turn inspecting them first.)

[magellan]

ya know. that shoku guy has some neat ideas.

Other than that short comments: Yep. I realized too that drills were underpowered. Was thinking of yanking up damage reduction for stuff, and have drills ignore it (and do more whop)

Enforcing zoning laws for alien settlements has been on my todolist since forever too

Oh, and in case you havent found them niltrias:

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There is a species on one planet that is building their first FTL ship, and another one that has sent a sublight probe that is coasting through space, voyager/pioneer like .

[niltrias]

For showing mountain difficulties, you could also use different colors based on difficulty.

@magellan

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I haven`t found the planet that is building their first FTL ship, but I have found the industrial society that say they sent out a probe.  I was unable to find the probe itself, tho, and had kind of assumed that it was more or less fluff text.  Guess I should look again.  Its the details like that that make a game great!

[chaoticag]

Armour prevents asphixiation?
Also, despite the 5% chance, a meteor managed to hit my ship in its second try.

Also, infinite fuel for the jetpack is possible if you drop and pick stuff up.

[Shoku]

For showing mountain difficulties, you could also use different colors based on difficulty.

@magellan

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I haven`t found the planet that is building their first FTL ship, but I have found the industrial society that say they sent out a probe.  I was unable to find the probe itself, tho, and had kind of assumed that it was more or less fluff text.  Guess I should look again.  Its the details like that that make a game great!

Well ya, that's what I was saying. It was probably hidden in all of the explanation of how it would only be visible when the crew member with the right skill for this took a turn to judge how dangerous the mountains were but it was definitely in the post... somewhere. You'd need a pilot to navigate through that mountain of ideas!

Also: Thanks magellan. I love getting complimented for ideas n_n

[neadlak]

Today I arrived at a star to find the background highlighted like it had a unique - and the planets scanned - without my doing any of it.

Also, are my away teams dropping equipment when the security guys get their butts kicked? I picked up some auxiliary oxygen tanks and then lost 'em again, not sure how.

And as far as my visibility research goes: still max darkness on plenty of outer-orbit planets, with a floodlight and sensorset. Underground/indoors, I was getting 3 spaces - with lamp+sensor set. Up from 2. That's all I got now. =/

[magellan]

As for the first: you didn't find an alien computer on some planet did you?
2nd: nope, shouldn't happen. Got a savegame that i could look at?

[neadlak]

Re: #2, I think I got killed and started a new game and was just too tired to keep my runs separate.

Re: #1 - they were incomplete scans and I don't recall grabbing an alien computer but it's possible.

[niltrias]

I know this is a blatant spoiler request, but

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Can you do anything at the FTL building planet?  Ive tried everything i could think of, but it seems like fluff.  I see three possibilities:
1) I am an idiot
2) it is fluff
3) it is bugged. 
Any help?  hints are preferred to direct answers.

[magellan]

Well.... if you want to know what

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you can do to help them finish their ship

The answer is

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nothing., unfortunately. 

But there are other things.

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trading, obviously

and

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some might be willing to take the cance to hitch a lift

While we are at it:

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I am curious: you mentioned killing the sentient crystal was a pain. Pain as in tedious and boring? Or the good kind of pain?

[Neonivek]

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Pain as in tedious and boring? Or the good kind of pain?

Actually don't be too quick to chop down tedious and boring. A lot of the times the negative aspects of a game, book, or movie are a great way to emphasise the much better qualities of the rest. Though I have little-no idea of how to measure something to see what is acceptable boring and tedius.

[magellan]

Oh, of course. A tiny bit of frustration makes victory taste sweeter.

In this particular case i am a bit more worried that it's just plain boring though.

[niltrias]

This has become a spoiler thread heh.  here we go.  @magellan

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By a pain, I meant long and difficult, not boring.  If I had done it and gone up and found that I had freed the colony, it would have been highly rewarding.  Due to a bug, when I finished I went up and the situation was unchanged, which was a bit of a buzz-kill.  But if it had worked the way it was supposed to have worked, it would have been awesome.  The only minor thing I might request is at some point, maybe half-way, the message changes...so that the player can see that they are actually doing SOMETHING.  I was wondering for quite a while if i was having any effect or just wasting time.
but overall, I like it.  Dont make the game too easy!  I know Ive asked about a few things on this forum, but compared to the time I have spent playing, its nothing. heh.
Great game!