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[Leafsnail]

Oh, and for the record, Enraged gives the same bonuses as Beserk without the team killing.  Martial trance does other stuff.

[SimRobert2001]

The most interesting dwarf has no need to lie.

If Morul says it, it becomes the Truth.

hrmm... then i should have him talk about how good i am in the sack, and how big of a harem i have... >.>

[Nerserus]

well he doesnt get any better as ultra-mighty is the best strenght and so on and i think he have them maxed out. and if you have a meeting hall all dwarves get these because of the speech skills.

Actually i checked Dwarf Companion and i noticed that indeed Dwarf strength agility and toughness increase BEYOND what they say they do. I had a miner with 13 Toughness ( 100 Being the actual max and 6 being Super(Racename)lytough. ), so by the time Morul is finished...He will be able to wrestle...I would say he could beat a Giant with his bare hands, quite easily. And yes. Attributes beyond 6 DO count. A maxed out Frog Demon can beat anything.

[Leafsnail]

well he doesnt get any better as ultra-mighty is the best strenght and so on and i think he have them maxed out. and if you have a meeting hall all dwarves get these because of the speech skills.

Actually i checked Dwarf Companion and i noticed that indeed Dwarf strength agility and toughness increase BEYOND what they say they do. I had a miner with 13 Toughness ( 100 Being the actual max and 6 being Super(Racename)lytough. ), so by the time Morul is finished...He will be able to wrestle...I would say he could beat a Giant with his bare hands, quite easily. And yes. Attributes beyond 6 DO count. A maxed out Frog Demon can beat anything.

Yep.  I think Morul's super high strength pretty much breaks the combat formula.

[crash2455]

Actually i checked Dwarf Companion and i noticed that indeed Dwarf strength agility and toughness increase BEYOND what they say they do. I had a miner with 13 Toughness ( 100 Being the actual max and 6 being Super(Racename)lytough. ), so by the time Morul is finished...He will be able to wrestle...I would say he could beat a Giant with his bare hands, quite easily. And yes. Attributes beyond 6 DO count. A maxed out Frog Demon can beat anything.

It's for this reason that the Guards in Nist Akath can tackle a Bronze Colossus modded to be 100 feet tall.

[Wild Goose]

I'm still hoping that if Morul isn't wearing anything flammable, that he'll fare reasonably well. Not yet, since his weapons skills still all suck other than wrestling, but in about 10 years or so, that should be a much different situation.

So...he's fighting in the buff?  I'm just picturing naked Morul charging a SoF, and failing, because my brain keeps rebooting.

[Martin]

So...he's fighting in the buff?  I'm just picturing naked Morul charging a SoF, and failing, because my brain keeps rebooting.

Adamantine is generally non-flammable. At least to fireballs it is.

[Blargityblarg]

SOFs will melt/burn/boil anything except adamantine, I think: they're 25000 dorfdegrees, and adamantine's melting point is the same.

[Sensei]

Shouldn't that mean Adamantine will give after prolonged exposure, and they'll take damage just from being with a few paces of SoFs?

[crash2455]

I've sent dwarves in wearing Iron or Steel, and the only thing that caught was their clothes.

Also, there is no such thing as prolonged exposure to a SoF.  You kill it or it kills you.

[Village_Idiot]

Fighting wave after wave of SOF should count as prolonged exposure, as morul would stay within 5 tiles of one at all times....

[Leafsnail]

I thought they melted adamantine if they were holding it.  Maybe getting a stuck in would instantly melt an adamantine weapon?  Hmm, does this happen, and does the SoF then have molten adamantine embedded in it?

[Martin]

I thought they melted adamantine if they were holding it.  Maybe getting a stuck in would instantly melt an adamantine weapon?  Hmm, does this happen, and does the SoF then have molten adamantine embedded in it?

I think that's the extent needed. Maybe a stuck weapon would melt, but I don't recall a single instance of a champions armor catching fire or melting when battling SOF. The champs either kill it or die. My thinking was to send Morul in with either hammer or axe, adamantine from head to toe including weapon, and lock the door behind him. He needs some skills though, and I'm thinking now (based on the tests so far) he's got to be in the L100 shield/armor range. That'll take some time.

[Smew]

I thought they melted adamantine if they were holding it.  Maybe getting a stuck in would instantly melt an adamantine weapon?  Hmm, does this happen, and does the SoF then have molten adamantine embedded in it?

I think that's the extent needed. Maybe a stuck weapon would melt, but I don't recall a single instance of a champions armor catching fire or melting when battling SOF. The champs either kill it or die. My thinking was to send Morul in with either hammer or axe, adamantine from head to toe including weapon, and lock the door behind him. He needs some skills though, and I'm thinking now (based on the tests so far) he's got to be in the L100 shield/armor range. That'll take some time.

You're going to want multiple champions in there, even if he has L100 shield/weapon/etc, SoF are just 'that' lucky sometimes.

[crash2455]

I sent 5 ridiculously overpowered (>100 Shield, Armor, and Weapon users) Nist Akath Guards against SoF, and only 1 came back alive.  The deciding factor seems to be whether or not you get hit by their fire attack.