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Author Topic: Presenting: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World  (Read 255148 times)

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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #285 on: June 02, 2009, 02:55:40 pm »

He can gain one more Legendary skill, and can still be used for the aforementioned "challenges".
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #286 on: June 02, 2009, 03:21:04 pm »

Well, actually, he could hunt using any weapon, and he would get that weapon experiance. And he's fast enough to get into melee with any animal running away...

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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #287 on: June 02, 2009, 05:30:22 pm »

Yes, my understanding is that activation for the military is a separate thing. Skills don't automatically draft someone. Once you activate them, it's permanent, however.
Well actually, the activation isn't permanent unless they gain a weapon skill while activated.

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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #288 on: June 02, 2009, 06:08:28 pm »

So, if you get to level 25 in all weapon skills through painful tedious hunting, your reward will be the ability to activate AND deactivate the most effective dwarven fighter mathematically possible?  :o
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #289 on: June 02, 2009, 06:14:07 pm »

So, if you get to level 25 in all weapon skills through painful tedious hunting, your reward will be the ability to activate AND deactivate the most effective dwarven fighter mathematically possible?  :o

No, as soon as you activate him, he becomes a champion.

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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #290 on: June 02, 2009, 06:20:02 pm »

Yes, my understanding is that activation for the military is a separate thing. Skills don't automatically draft someone. Once you activate them, it's permanent, however.
Well actually, the activation isn't permanent unless they gain a weapon skill while activated.


So, if you get to level 25 in all weapon skills through painful tedious hunting, your reward will be the ability to activate AND deactivate the most effective dwarven fighter mathematically possible?  :o
No, as soon as you activate him, he becomes a champion.


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and the results are that if you have a legendary crossbow user and activate him he does not become a hero! this means the act of being a hero and of being a champion is connected to the actual leveling of the dwarf and not actually being at that level so as long as non-military when leveled you can have the most kick a-- dwarf ever.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2009, 06:30:06 pm by Akhier the Dragon hearted »
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #291 on: June 02, 2009, 06:30:34 pm »

That's good to know, but it might be difficult to get Morul around as a hunter. I suppose the 'lever assigned only to Morul connected to nothing outside the gates' might work for sieges.
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #292 on: June 02, 2009, 06:32:08 pm »

That's good to know, but it might be difficult to get Morul around as a hunter. I suppose the 'lever assigned only to Morul connected to nothing outside the gates' might work for sieges.
as long as he is not military and does not fight you can have him drafted all you want as long as you don't mind the unhappy thoughts ;D
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #293 on: June 02, 2009, 08:50:05 pm »

That's good to know, but it might be difficult to get Morul around as a hunter. I suppose the 'lever assigned only to Morul connected to nothing outside the gates' might work for sieges.

Nah, that's easy. The hunting arena which is 8 fully excavated embark tiles has food, booze, a bed, table, etc. I just send him down there and lock him in and walk away for a year. The animals would need several repopulation cycles to get him through all of the skills, however, especially shield/armor, but the current setup is designed to do this kind of thing.

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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #294 on: June 03, 2009, 12:08:00 am »

Ok, Morul is a legendary swimmer and is now equipped with masterwork adamantine armor and masterwork adamantine spear and training down in the hunting arena. It's going much slower than I expected. He's gotten 200 more kills doing this and is only novice speardwarf. Basically he walks up to a horse, touches it, and it dies. Walks up to a goat, touches it, and it dies. Walks up to a macaque, touches it, and it dies. He's not even gotten a stuck spear yet. Walks up to another horse, touches it, and it dies.

I haven't had an orc siege in 2 years and am getting a little worried that they've gotten shy. But if they return, I think I'm going to have to just turn Morul loose on them.

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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #295 on: June 03, 2009, 01:04:39 am »

You should give him the crappiest weapon for leveling up, so that it takes more than one strike to kill whatever he is hunting.
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #296 on: June 03, 2009, 02:09:40 am »

You should give him the crappiest weapon for leveling up, so that it takes more than one strike to kill whatever he is hunting.

It probably wouldn't change anything.  His strength is so high he could probably punch enemys' entrails out in one hit.
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #297 on: June 03, 2009, 02:12:27 am »

ah but if it was a silver fist that would only be half the entrails!
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #298 on: June 03, 2009, 02:14:14 am »

Basically he walks up to a horse, touches it, and it dies. Walks up to a goat, touches it, and it dies. Walks up to a macaque, touches it, and it dies. He's not even gotten a stuck spear yet. Walks up to another horse, touches it, and it dies.

You need to give him standard, no-quality silver weapons.
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Re: Quest: The Most Interesting Dwarf in the World
« Reply #299 on: June 03, 2009, 07:37:00 am »

You could always add damage block to the animals or cut the damage of a spear to 1 or both.  Consider it padding your spear for training.  Not sure how much modding you want to do in this challange though.  I wouldn't consider that too cheaty as you are actually making his task harder.
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