Excuse me legolord,
I was under the impression that this thread was on atheism, hence religion is fairly irrelevant.
Thus far to me the religion protagonists have only proven that they can type long posts with internal inconsistencies.
So you claim that religion is as valid as reality in a thread about atheism, how does promoting YOUR worldview not offend?
You also continue to claim lack of any evidence is proof in itself, which renders all your arguments suspect in my book.
I know enough about religion to say they cannot all be true, because none can prove or disprove anything they must therefore be equally true and thus untrue.
religion defendants always try to push atheism into a defensive corner by at first coming out with reasonable sounding statements, however in the end these always escalate into such reality bending assumptions such as religion X is a valid viewpoint as long as some of its claims cannot be proven or disproven.
I just lost my patience with the discussion going on in this thread and so I posted a tactless text. I feel violated when people discuss reality as if they are discussing law. Reality is NOT mutable! You can believe whatever, just keep it inside your own mind, leave innocent unbelievers without your mana of wisdom please, don't try to insinuate it into my mind or ass.
ps The Universe is not futile, it just is. Just get on with living and you will live. Find a loving partner and you will do so happilly and your genes will continue after you have died. (IF you sire any children)
Thinking about the reason or purpose of the Universe is pretty pointless though.
I didn't find God comforting at all, just confusing.
If god was allknowing and omnipresent, why not spare a few seconds to explain the rules to young persons? It would really impress!
I had to create all sorts of loopholes in my mind (as a preteen/toddler) in order to make the stories make sense.
Almost as bad as asking your parent how a TV works or a steamengine etc they are likely not to know and will think up a nice story. And this is now how I feel religion got started: a few people got to thinking up stories about how the world was created, how it functions now and what happens after. And eventually people got to look at their priests as having the answers to all unknowns.
So these priests made up all kinds of incredible(or improbable) stories of how X and Y got to be like that, without any kind of evidence. (besides shape in some cases; such as 'the sun is a dungball pushed across the sky by a celestial dugbeetle, the round shape proves it!')
Figures in authority just tend to dictate reality to their 'lessers' even if they need to throw away half the datapoints to fit them planets into a worldcentric system.
Surely a worldcentric system mght have been more practical for interplanetary missions, the made up system just does not hold up when you try to use it for real.
...though I understand the orbits were highly complex with the planets making loopings and such, so I wonder if anyone would have dared leave the Earth at all.
Religions that onl concern themselves with non-physical issues such as morals and such are excempt from my scorn. (Their misguided propagandists re not though)
Now look what you done: I wrote a rambling wall of text! (ill spoiler it)