You know exactly what I mean with the hidden cameras Sordid.
Now that you have corrected yourself, yes. Initially, however, I had no way of knowing if you simply misspoke or if you really had no concept of unfalsifiability, so I pointed it out.
Now I am going to call you out on mocking. You are intentionally playing stupid. No, the others things are not tangible or falsifiable. That's why I said "without getting up and looking around" for the cameras.
No, you said if I
couldn't get up and look. That'd imply I'd been restrained in some way, and surveilance would be quite plausible in such a situation.
Even with the cameras: if you look and don't find any, does that mean there are still none?
If I looked thoroughly enough, yes.
Please take a statistics class if you are still in school. Nothing is truly falsifiable. Accepting that, you wouldn't be doing what you're doing right now.
Just because we can't prove anything beyond unreasonable doubt doesn't render our knowledge and methods of inquiry worthless.
If you'd actually allow the effort, you could probably allow yourself to come to that same conclusion from your own wanderings but I'm doubting that with your narrow objectives.
You presume too much.
There is no "option C" and you know that. You are doomed to leave this world, and your options of preparation in terms of spiritual whatnot are A or B. Once you trump death and transcend you can pick option C.
Actually no, I don't know that. And I don't see why the limiting factor on the number of options available should be the fact of my mortality - it is entirely possible that a definitive answer will be found before I die, either by God revealing himself or by physicists finally unraveling the very fabric of the universe.
Alternately, I would also question the idea that I'm doomed to leave this world. For the first time in the history of our species we have science advanced enough that we can glimpse immortality. There is no doubt in my mind that sooner or later science will give us a way to live forever. The body is after all a machine, only instead of steel it's made of carbon. As one Bart Kosko put it, death is an engineering problem. My hope is that this is accomplished within my lifetime, and judging by the speed with which our knowledge advances I'd say my chances aren't half bad.
"lolfail" "fail" and the extreme walls of text with one or two liner responses to every sentence or segment of a response. Grow up. Please.
I respond to every point that is made with an appropriate counterpoint, and since there are many I try not to be overly verbose. It's not my fault your people keep throwing shit out there like crazy. This debating technique is called the Gish Gallop, you basically make tons of claims and assertions without bothering to back any of them up. This works amazingly well in time-constrained TV discussions, where the opponent will then simply not have enough time to appropriately respond to each point, since the refutation generally takes longer than just throwing the claim out there, and the galloper will seem to come up on top. Needless to say, this is considerably less effective in a more tightly controlled setting or - and this is our case here - a completely unconstrained format where the other party can take the time to answer all the points.
Should it turn out that there is a god, would that not mean that your beliefs are just as wrong as any other religious person who believes in the wrong god?
There's a difference between true and warranted. As has been pointed out several times, we don't really have a way to really, truly
know anything. All we can do is make our best estimation based ont he evidence available. It's not absolutely solid, 100% proof, and can never be in principle, but it's the best we've got. So yeah, if it turns out there is a god, then atheists are wrong (and the intellectually honest ones will amend their beliefs). But that doesn't mean their uneblief was unwarranted in the absence of evidence.
Then try to prove atheism. When you fail, let us know.
There is no evidence for the existence of a god.
There.