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Realmfighter

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Re: Atheists
« Reply #5205 on: October 14, 2010, 05:20:32 pm »

Nihilistic gods?

I like it
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Re: Atheists
« Reply #5206 on: October 14, 2010, 05:25:34 pm »

Nihilistic gods?

I like it
Not Nihilistic, neutral. Basically, they're like... a force of nature.

Is there even a religion based off that?
Yes, many.
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« Reply #5207 on: October 14, 2010, 05:28:01 pm »

Is anybody else reminded of Epicurus's (in?)famous quote? (The one with If God is able/willing)
For those who don't know what he's typing about, it's this:
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To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
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« Reply #5208 on: October 14, 2010, 05:28:16 pm »

Neutral implies that there are things that are good and evil, ruining the point of saying that the gods are not to be pigeon holed into red and white colored boxes.

Read this
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« Reply #5209 on: October 14, 2010, 05:29:28 pm »

So, an uncaring God that does not give humans any more attention than any other part of the universe, but still causes random and unlikely events?

God is Probability?
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« Reply #5210 on: October 14, 2010, 05:30:37 pm »

We call Probability God.
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« Reply #5211 on: October 14, 2010, 05:31:25 pm »

Maybe he just has a remarkable fondness for parasitic worms?

That would be so great.

I can see in like twenty thousand years He comes down to earth and says "Behold my Dracunculiasis children! I have come back!

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Wtf dudes. Why are the monkeys walking around in cities?"
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« Reply #5212 on: October 14, 2010, 05:36:04 pm »

God is one hell of a shape shifter.  It seems that he can mysteriously become anything.
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« Reply #5213 on: October 14, 2010, 05:38:59 pm »

Even a talking monkey?
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« Reply #5214 on: October 14, 2010, 05:40:26 pm »

With Epicurus, what God exactly is he referring to? Christianity would come a few hundred years later, leaving Judaism with the only monotheistic God. Classical Greek gods were most definitely malevolent and/or unable, but that quote is singular, so I am led to believe that he is referring to the concept of any sort of divine being?
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Re: Atheists
« Reply #5215 on: October 14, 2010, 05:41:17 pm »

Yep, just the concept itself.
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« Reply #5216 on: October 14, 2010, 05:53:08 pm »

That must have made him reeaally popular.
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« Reply #5217 on: October 14, 2010, 06:00:50 pm »

With Epicurus, what God exactly is he referring to? Christianity would come a few hundred years later, leaving Judaism with the only monotheistic God. Classical Greek gods were most definitely malevolent and/or unable, but that quote is singular, so I am led to believe that he is referring to the concept of any sort of divine being?

You act like Monotheism is new. While the classical greeks had a polytheistic religion, the intellectuals and philosophers generally didn't practice such things, and in addition, there were a variety of religions that cropped up around the Mediterranean for ages, including Monotheistic ones. Think Persian Zoroastrianism. Greece and Classical Persia mingled a lot, particularly under the conquests of Alexander the Great. In any case, Epicurus was not arguing that there is no God. Everything scholars know about him indicates instead that his arguments were illustrations that, any Gods that do exist simply do not care about us, as they by nature are far too alien and advanced for human comprehension.

He felt that it was no accident that the morality of the Gods was always the morality of the majority of the people who believe in them at any given time, shifting to accommodate the people. His argument was against any kind of god that is so conveniently similar to us.
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« Reply #5218 on: October 14, 2010, 06:14:29 pm »

If he wants to keep the population down, then just smite cities or flood the world again. None of this passive-aggressive "Planet trying to kill you" crap.

I would also be okay with an ever-expanding plane for a planet instead of a sphere.
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« Reply #5219 on: October 14, 2010, 06:15:40 pm »

I would also be okay with an ever-expanding plane for a planet instead of a sphere.

Why not an ever-expanding sphere?  Have your cake and eat it, too!
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