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KaguroDraven

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Re: Atheists
« Reply #5145 on: October 13, 2010, 05:52:00 pm »

They work for two main reasons
1)the enemy are idiots
2)they have super soldiers who can rip 100 men apart with ease as their main weapon, brute force is far easier to succeed with with those in your forces.
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« Reply #5146 on: October 13, 2010, 05:58:12 pm »

Well, I mean more the Imperial Guard. Spess Mahreens can afford to be stupid since they're walking tanks. But when you're a very mortal human commanding very mortal humans against something very much less mortal (everything except grotlings, maybe?) it should encourage critical thinking.
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« Reply #5147 on: October 13, 2010, 06:02:03 pm »

Well you have to remember one thing, the enemies the Imperial Guard faces would rip apart even the badasses of other universes, by this logic, while the Imperial Guard....suck, they can with numbers hold their own against these things, makeing them an army of badasses, just not badass enough to be....well GOOD in the universe that is 40k. Plus the Guard had been able to, mostly, hide behind the Marines for so long that the ideas of 'tactics' kind fell out of use. Or this could just be me makeing excuses for the fact the game designers/story writers just don't give two shits about tactics.
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« Reply #5148 on: October 13, 2010, 06:19:27 pm »

The Orks? A trifle. It was simply a matter of outsmarting them. You see, the Orks have a preset teef limit; knowing their weakness I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and went home.
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« Reply #5149 on: October 13, 2010, 06:21:12 pm »

Don't distort the holy words of the great Pimp Daddy Brannagin! >.> oh wait wrong guy, this is just Zap Brannagin, the douch.
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« Reply #5150 on: October 13, 2010, 06:26:01 pm »

The background fluff for the IG doesn't show a lack of tactics, since its greatest level of detail amounts to "so like, they totally attacked this planet and won and shit". Horrible tactics are just the result of bad authors who don't understand basic military strategy, or bad authors who want to make it look MOAR GRIMDARK by making everyone in a position of power maliciously retarded (this is mostly Dan Abnett's Gaunt's Ghosts series (from what I've read, at least), at least the early ones (which are all I've read), and it seems mostly done to make the extremely mediocre Ibram Gaunt seem like a genius by making everyone else actively malicious and/or retarded, though going off his Eisenhorn and Ravenor books (which were awesome) he's either just bad at writing IG, or got significantly better since writing the early Gaunt's Ghosts books (which I believe may be case)). They actually seem to use something appreciably like modern tactics (converted into the terms of the setting, necessarily) in the Ciaphas Cain series.
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« Reply #5151 on: October 13, 2010, 06:31:30 pm »

Yes, but CIAPHAS CAIN, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM is a master of strategy and cunning! His wit on the battlefield is matched only by his love of THE EMPEROR, and his every act is part of a masterfully conceived plan. Truly, the greatest tragedy is that CIAPHAS CAIN, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM is only one man, and the other servants of the IMPERIUM can only hope to match his achievements.
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Re: Atheists
« Reply #5152 on: October 13, 2010, 06:34:03 pm »

Bah Ciaphas is nothing compaired to Yarrick, he who is consitered a worthy fight by a Warboss. On another note, Dis thread needs more Dakka!
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« Reply #5153 on: October 13, 2010, 06:38:47 pm »

I already gave you all the teef my men had, what more do you want?
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« Reply #5154 on: October 13, 2010, 08:59:10 pm »

How did this topic go from reincarnation to WH40k? Wait, here it is.
Oh just stop all of this discussion about gods and rebirth. There is and always will be only one true god.

NOW KNEEL FOR YOUR GOD-EMPEROR OR BE EXTERMINATED AS A HERETIC!

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« Reply #5155 on: October 13, 2010, 09:01:12 pm »

Hmmmm is Egyptian religion still used? Like the whole pharaoh is closest to god thing?
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« Reply #5156 on: October 13, 2010, 09:05:27 pm »

... Well, there is no Pharaoh anymore. o.o
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« Reply #5157 on: October 13, 2010, 09:07:01 pm »

How did this topic go from reincarnation to WH40k? Wait, here it is.
Oh just stop all of this discussion about gods and rebirth. There is and always will be only one true god.

NOW KNEEL FOR YOUR GOD-EMPEROR OR BE EXTERMINATED AS A HERETIC!

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THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT KAGURODRAVEN!
Should I be proud or ashaimed that with a single joke I derailed a conversation?
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I will punch you in the soul if you do that again.
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Because I can"-WolfTengu

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« Reply #5158 on: October 13, 2010, 09:09:42 pm »

... Well, there is no Pharaoh anymore. o.o
They now call him the Pope.
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« Reply #5159 on: October 13, 2010, 09:11:42 pm »

... Well, there is no Pharaoh anymore. o.o
They now call him the Pope.
Well the hats DO look alike.

Edit:Fun fact, I want to steal the pope's hat one day >.>
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