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cbfog

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instant death
« on: April 26, 2009, 01:23:24 am »

I just started a new fort in a nice, calm setting with a small brook and had just designated the first rooms to be dug out of the loam. Two seconds after unpausing the game so my minions could get to work a pack of troglodytes appeared out of nowhere and massacred my dwarves! What the hell!
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Re: instant death
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 01:25:47 am »

You got Troglodyteed!

Neruz

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Re: instant death
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2009, 01:46:36 am »

Robin Troglodyte strikes again! *Swings off through the trees*

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Re: instant death
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2009, 01:56:34 am »

Trogdor the Burninator's minions do a good job, no?
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Re: instant death
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2009, 02:15:51 am »

So it would seem that this is a common occurrence?
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Re: instant death
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2009, 02:23:51 am »

So it would seem that this is a common occurrence?

I've never seen one before, they supposedly only live underground too, And they can only do damage very early game. I guess you just got unlucky.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2009, 02:49:49 am by lemonpieman »
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Jim Groovester

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Re: instant death
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 02:43:06 am »

It seems like your nice, calm location is next to an exposed chasm.
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Re: instant death
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2009, 02:55:26 am »

Yeah you can get unlucky and be attacked quite early in the game.

You have to hope you get lucky and your Miners kill them.
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Re: instant death
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2009, 02:59:30 am »

So it would seem that this is a common occurrence?

Common enough.  If it ain't da trogs, it's da antmen or whatever. 

It's like JG said - if you have an exposed chasm, they come pouring out if you're too close.

Too close to an exposed magma pipe/pool is even more fun.

Most common critters an untrained dorf can usually wrestle down, even those singly, but not a wave of them.

In the future, your options are...
    1) Once you embark, look around.  Use < u > to see what wildlife there is, and where.
    2) Don't accept embarks with chasms that end in the middle (this is weak - just be careful)
    3) bring along an armed dwarf (or more than one) of some sort*
    4) laugh it off like we do and start over  ;D

(* see "Ambusher" in the wiki)

In extremis, any miner and a pick add to the fun.  You're not defenseless, just have to look at what's around.  Sometimes the sphincter factor is higher than others is all.

I bring a dorf with one level (each) of ambusher, axe, architect, and some leader skills, plus high armour use.  Comes with leather armor, a crossbow and steel bolts (the axe is up to me.)  Make him my (untrained) wood-cutter/plant gatherer.  With an axe in his hands and someone else unarmoured but armed with that crossbow they can stop most unpleasantness.   (Not sure about a half dozen trogs...)   :D
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Re: instant death
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2009, 07:55:21 am »

Loosing is fun, isn't it?!  ;D
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Re: instant death
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2009, 07:58:18 am »

Hmm, I had the misfortune to lose a hunter within about 5 seconds to an aligator.  Now I check the second biome to see if it's bad.  These were the first two messages I ever got:


______ cancels hunt: Unconscious
______ has been struck down!

There is also the "volcano" bug, too.
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Re: instant death
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2009, 08:03:01 am »

Aaaaah yes, Alligators are bad ass when they're noteable ( Check Conepirni, he wiped out a good load of my millita ) and hell, he was BLIND, what chance did your hunter stand?

Anyway, i ALWAYS bring a steel war hammer with me and a trained dwarf, a set of leather helps too if it's a rough location. Hunters are good for self defence When you see the target coming if they're too close, you have little chance of winning. Change the "guard"s class depending on the area, if for example it is untamed wilds, i would change said hammer to a spear, near a chasm? Sword. Magma pool? Crossbow is your only chance if you ask me.
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Re: instant death
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2009, 09:12:05 am »

I just had a fun embark. First time in terrifying wilds so to be safe I thought I'd bring 4 war dogs. Started off ok, the war dogs ripped a werewolf to shreds without suffering so much as a scratch. Then, whilst I'm still striking the earth and everyone's outside sorting out the stuff I brought, I get besieged by 3 alligators who finish off two war dogs and my only woodcutter and then decide to sit on his axe for a few hours so I can't chop wood.

Feeling that this was all part of the fun I carried on without feeling disheartened. Next I lost my remaining two war dogs and a dwarf to a werewolf (who had lost both eyes and had a few mangled limbs) who ended up falling into my carp infested river and meeting a sticky end.

Still not dismayed I continued, when the alligator leader returned and killed another dwarf. This left me with 4 dwarves but the latest victim had managed to knock the alligator (who now has a name) unconscious. So I draft everyone else and send them after him thinking it'll be an easy win as he's unconscious. As soon as they start he wakes up and rips two of them apart before running away towards his friends.

So I was left with two dwarves, who struck the earth and survived. They built a cage trap and ended up capturing this guy, so I now have him at my mercy. Fortunately, one of the dwarves went secretive and made an artifact scepter which seemed to prompt a 20-dwarf immigrant wave, so I'm back on track and doing well.

Still, an adventure.
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Vilien

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Re: instant death
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2009, 09:17:54 am »

That's what you get for starting in an area with troglodytes. As is well known, troglodytes will murder your ass.
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Re: instant death
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2009, 09:22:32 am »

War dogs is the answer here. War dogs are pretty cheap, and you're probably bringing along sufficient breeding stock to start your own pack of dogs anyway. May as well make them war dogs.
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