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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2009, 03:56:27 am »

This reminds of the fun I had messing with my new TI-89 Titanium today.

Did you know that calculators don't like it when you tell them to take quadnomials to powers of over a hundred. I like to play with equations like this. I just lack a calculator right now.
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2009, 04:14:02 pm »

2^x = 10^y

log_10(2^x) = log_10(10^y)

log_10(2^x) = y

Alternatively,

x = log_2(10^y)

Continuing from there you get X = Y*log_2(10) or Y=X*log_10(2) which you might recognise as a straight line. Now if you're looking for any point where X and Y are both integers, you'd need to find an X for which X * log_10(2) is an integer. That number would be
X = 1/(og_10(2) = log_10(10)/log_10(2) = log_2(10)
And since log_2(10) isn't an integer, X ins't an integer. So there's no pair of integers X and Y that fit this equation, and therefor
2^n = 10^m can only be true if M or N isn't an integer.
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2009, 04:23:13 pm »

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2^n = 10^m can only be true if M or N isn't an integer.

2^0 = 1
10^0 = 1

Zero is definitely integer. Perhaps you meant "natural"?
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2009, 04:45:24 pm »

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2^n = 10^m can only be true if M or N isn't an integer.

2^0 = 1
10^0 = 1

Zero is definitely integer. Perhaps you meant "natural"?

Wups forgot about 0. Yes, 0 is the only integer that would fit the description. Any other integer (positive or negative) doesn't.
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2009, 05:10:05 pm »

After drawing graphs of both I think we could also safely rule out positive real numbers. I can't think a way these two could cross.
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2009, 12:58:35 am »

This isn't a difficult math problem. Virex already solved it a few posts ago, but it was a bit difficult to read. Hopefully, this helps.

2x = 10y
ln(2x) = ln(10y)
xln2 = yln10

y = x ln(2)/ln(10)

This is the solution curve to the original equation. This is a linear relation, and the Domain is (-∞,∞), and the Range is likewise (-∞,∞). There are no discontinuities. The trivial case of (0,0) is the only integer solution.
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2009, 04:32:11 am »

This isn't a difficult math problem. Virex already solved it a few posts ago, but it was a bit difficult to read. Hopefully, this helps.

2x = 10y
ln(2x) = ln(10y)
xln2 = yln10

y = x ln(2)/ln(10)

This is the solution curve to the original equation. This is a linear relation, and the Domain is (-∞,∞), and the Range is likewise (-∞,∞). There are no discontinuities. The trivial case of (0,0) is the only integer solution.
I give that answer a thumbs up. It contains little to no trolling elements, unlike some other answers :P

I'd go a bit further and say y = 0.3010x, because ln(2) and ln(10) are both constants.
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2009, 10:45:33 am »

If you wanted to keep it exact, you could simplify it to y = xlog102 as well
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Re: A Math Question
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2009, 12:18:02 pm »

After drawing graphs of both I think we could also safely rule out positive real numbers. I can't think a way these two could cross.

You're doing the wrong thing there.

You shouldn't draw lines, you should just draw points at every integer along the horizontal axis.

Now, is there any pair of points on the horizontal line that give a matching pair of answers on the vertical axis?  They won't cross, but...

(I can't say x and y because they commandeered those...heh)
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