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[Ampersand]

So I'm playing the Kobold Camp mod when I finally get my first migrant wave. Consisting entirely of a cook and his two children, Srukis and Shlalareedus. After they grow to adult hood I look at Srukis' relationships. It lists his father, and everyone else in the Camp, except for his sister. Not labled as older sister, not labeled as younger sister.

Further investigation reveals that neither of the two siblings seem even aware of each other's existence. Is it a bug or are they just dead to each other?

Edit: Furthermore, the single father almost immediately married the local carpenter. And two years later, they've had precisely ten more children, and all of those siblings recognize each each other just fine. I feel compelled to find out how the original two lost their mother.

[Footkerchief]

What made you think they were siblings, then?

[Ampersand]

They share the same father. Maybe I wasn't entirely clear. They don't show up on each other's relationships page -At All-, even as acquaintances, even after recruiting them and making them wrestle together for hours.

[Duke 2.0]

"Hey Shlalareedus, what happened to your brother?"
"I have no brother. "

[Ampersand]

Incidentally, I saw the movie your avatar is from the other night Duke. I think.

[Mister Thou]

So on the father's relationships page, both are listed as children, but neither child shows up in the other's page.

Do both children list the same father on their respective pages? The same mother?

If the answer to both is yes, I've no idea. If they have different mothers, that could be the reason. The game might use the mother for tracking descendance, and not the father.

According to the relationships pages, how are these two related to the children your cook has had with his new wife?

I hope this isn't a bug, because I like Duke's explanation better.

[Ampersand]

The father does lists both of them, Eldest Daughter and Eldest Son, and both children list the same father. The mother is not mentioned on either of their pages, however. Initially, I assumed the same thing, that they have a different mother and are not considered siblings as such, but if were that simple, then they should at least be aware of each other, list each other as acquaintances or friends.

And they don't.

Edit: Oh, also, they don't acknowledge the existence of the children of the new mother either.

[Mister Thou]

Since making friends and acquaintances is somewhat random, there is a possibility that the fact that they don't show up as acquaintances is unrelated to their not being siblings.

It's interesting that they don't have mothers listed.
Does anyone know how immigrant chidren work? Do both their parents show up together? If not, does their relationship page normally show only the one parent?

Also, did you happen to check if or how they are related to their father's more recent children?

[Ampersand]

Yes. They aren't. Not even aware of them. They should show up on the relationship pages just from being forced to wrestle together, don't you think?

[Duke 2.0]

 Actually, it is very common for one parent to not show up when migrants are generated at random. Never had this problem though.

[Mister Thou]

It's true that military dwarves (and presumably kobolds) get to know each other more quickly than civilians. It does take some time, however. How long have they been in the military?

If you haven't already, put some more guys into their squad, and that way you have a reference for how quickly their relationships should be forming. If the rest of the squad becomes friends and the two siblings still don't know each other, then you're probably on to something.

Maybe since they are supposed to be siblings, the game won't let them have another type of relationship with each other?

[Ampersand]

That explanation is quite possible. DF might not be able to properly handle step-siblings. But as far as how quickly they should be making relationships, they already know every single other person in the fortress, with exception for their step-siblings from their new mother.

[Mister Thou]

Well it seems like we've pretty much nailed it down to half-siblings not being handled correctly.
I'm guessing they do have a normal (non-related) relationship with the step-mother?

[Ampersand]

Yeah. They list the step-mother as a friend.

[Hyndis]

Do half siblings even exist in DF? I thought everyone was strictly monogomous. Even if they're immortal and their spouse died a thousand years ago, they will not remarry and have any more kids.

You can check this out in fortress mode as well. Just arrange for one of the baby factories' husband to have an "unfortunate accident" and the swarm of babies will stop. And it will never resume.