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[Albedo]

Side effect of giving dorfs custom professions, and then not looking at them when they do something like get a fey mood

Been there - once.  Now my custom professions are listed as "nicknames", until they're unmoodable.

[Leafsnail]

I'd like to point to the lame design of my coins.  I know they aren't artifacts, but they really are lame.  You know your coins have mountain goats, groundhogs, wolves or SOMETHING on the back?  Well mine...

This is a stack of 9 ercog copper coin.
This is a copper currency of ercog from the year 216.  On the front of the coin is a well-designed image of a dwarf and dwarves.  The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves.  On the coin's back is a superiorly designed image of a dwarf and dwarves.  The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves.

Anyway to change them?  Hmm... magma might help.

[doctorspoof]

See? Now THAT is a lame artifact!  Poorly done, sir, poorly done!

We all know weapon quality improves damage right? (Says so on wiki if you didn't)
Artifacts are of the highest quality
'nuff said

Yeah, I think I've read the wiki.  On the "Weapon" page, Artifact = Masterwork. But, point in fact, anyone can write anything on that - long-standing mistakes are corrected every day. (If you didn't know.) 

"Quality" can refer to many things, both formally and (as is too often the case in the Wiki) informally.  "Highest quality" is both a creative explanation of the concept, and a reference to the value. 

The RAW's imply that the weapon qualities end at Masterwork, and that Artifacts have masterwork modifiers for combat.  Or at least that's as much as analysis has found.

Urban legend and "It sure seems that way" and "That's what everyone says" and "Well, it only makes sense" seem to be the only sources and support for this belief.

Next time you get an artifact weapon, give it to an untrained champion in it's type to spar with.
You'll see how powerful it is by how many injuries you get. My champion with an atrifact steel sword that menaced with spikes of steel and hanging rings of steel instantly decapitated his sparring partner when he started training. It was also his wife.
He wasn't best pleased for awhile.

[Leafsnail]

See? Now THAT is a lame artifact!  Poorly done, sir, poorly done!

We all know weapon quality improves damage right? (Says so on wiki if you didn't)
Artifacts are of the highest quality
'nuff said

Yeah, I think I've read the wiki.  On the "Weapon" page, Artifact = Masterwork. But, point in fact, anyone can write anything on that - long-standing mistakes are corrected every day. (If you didn't know.) 

"Quality" can refer to many things, both formally and (as is too often the case in the Wiki) informally.  "Highest quality" is both a creative explanation of the concept, and a reference to the value. 

The RAW's imply that the weapon qualities end at Masterwork, and that Artifacts have masterwork modifiers for combat.  Or at least that's as much as analysis has found.

Urban legend and "It sure seems that way" and "That's what everyone says" and "Well, it only makes sense" seem to be the only sources and support for this belief.

Next time you get an artifact weapon, give it to an untrained champion in it's type to spar with.
You'll see how powerful it is by how many injuries you get. My champion with an atrifact steel sword that menaced with spikes of steel and hanging rings of steel instantly decapitated his sparring partner when he started training. It was also his wife.
He wasn't best pleased for awhile.

Lots of bludgeoning injuries when I let my champion with the artefact iron mace in.  3 members of the royal guard and 2 fortress guard are now lying in bed resting injuries (luckily, due to the high number of guards in my fortress (18, ie the recommended number, no soldiers got hurt).  I decided to put him out on patrol.

[Albedo]

(Discussion of artifact weapon damage is going way off topic - starting new thread here:

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=35958.0)

[smjjames]

How about a..... *drumroll!* Barrel!



Its the first artifact in my current game. It was made by the carpenter/woodcutter I started with. She was working on making some barrels and I guess she decided to go and make an ornamental one. No idea if it can actually be used as it's value is 4800, but if it does get used, at least it will get admired among all the 'common' barrels in the food stockpile.

[Albedo]

Yeah, I dunno... it can be used, so maybe not so lame... nah. That's pretty lame.

Try to put it somewhere high-traffic (tho' manipulating barrel placement is an arcane art, to be sure.)

[smjjames]

Here's your answer



The happy thoughts don't seem to have taken effect quite yet, but given time, I guess the effect will show up.

[Jhoosier]

I'd like to offer up my artifact limestone crown encircled with bands of....wait for it.....limestone!

I've had a long string of useless artifacts like this, and half of them are by possession, so no lengendary either.  boo.

Not to mention, I've had several moody ones go nuts and die because I embarked without an anvil and didn't realize it until one of my moody guys wanted a forge.  It gets even better.  The first dwarven caravan that shows up has a steel anvil, but right after setting up, we get sieged, and they half get slaughtered, and the traders running from the depot breaks the trade cycle, so the game thinks they're trading, but all the traders have run off.  And none of the traders killed had the anvil. double boo.

[Lord_Shadow]

Her is a list, I'm doing them from memory

An oak bin ~2400

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

oak bin, encircled in bands of oak, it mences with native copper spikes, on it is the image of a nake mole dog (in oak).

A alunite hatch cover ~1500

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

and alunite hatch cover, encircled in bands of wood, on it is an image of a deer bone bracelet in alunite

A native copper door ~5000

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Its a native copper door, it mences with spikes of native copper, it is encircled with bands of native copper, on it the image of dwarf in native, on it is the image of a deer bone bracelet in native copper, it is studded in native copper

The deer bone bracelet is a lengends item, i didn't make the game did in year 2...

[zchris13]

At least you can USE them! Some of us can't!

[The13thRonin]

If people are looking for more varied artifacts (of the lame and non-lame variety) and you're sick of seeing *goat-bone* and *turtle-shell* bracelets maybe you should try my new mod: Dwarf Fortress DIG DEEPER.

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=35736.0

I haven't calculated this but because of all the new metals, creatures, wood, gems, stone and other material the possibility for artifacts is GREATLY increased, maybe even two to three fold. Artifacts are a bit more exciting that way I think...

It really rocks when you get a Mithril cabinet studded with Meteoric Iron and menacing with spikes of Black Marble. Or a Red Kangaroo leather backpack adorned with hanging rings of Nordic Gold and decorated with Orange Jade.

[Time Kitten]

Until you get a noble requesting specific materials?

[Kel the Oblivious]

Artifact Bin. Currently being used to hold all my artifact stuff that can be stored in a bin.

Kobemagseth Alath ulosh "Troubledached the Bolt of Stigmata." A weapon bin (Oaken) <#7>

This is a Weapon Bin (Oaken) <#7> All craftdwarfship is of the highest quality. It is encircled with bands of oak.

2400 dorfbucks.

At least it has a use, and people admire it, cause I have it sitting in the middle of the main inner meeting area. with a couple useless shiny artifacts. A ring, a scepter, a totem, a wooden sword, and a void crystal cross bow. All artifacts.

[Leafsnail]

Her is a list, I'm doing them from memory

An oak bin ~2400

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

oak bin, encircled in bands of oak, it mences with native copper spikes, on it is the image of a nake mole dog (in oak).

A alunite hatch cover ~1500

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

and alunite hatch cover, encircled in bands of wood, on it is an image of a deer bone bracelet in alunite

A native copper door ~5000

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Its a native copper door, it mences with spikes of native copper, it is encircled with bands of native copper, on it the image of dwarf in native, on it is the image of a deer bone bracelet in native copper, it is studded in native copper

The deer bone bracelet is a lengends item, i didn't make the game did in year 2...

Those actually all sound ok.  The bin might be hard to place, but at least you can use the hatch cover and door as furniture.