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alfie275

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Special weaknesses / strengths.
« on: April 22, 2009, 05:24:07 pm »

A new tag:[Special:%ofdammagedone:thingthatisweak/strongto] for example weak to silver would be [Special:150:MATGLOSS:Silver] or strong to  shoes [Special:50:ITEM_SHOES]
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 05:39:11 pm »

I think things having certain reactions to materials and such is a pretty obvious idea.

... But what does being "strong to shoes" entail? That's my question!
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Re: Special weaknesses / strengths.
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2009, 05:53:06 pm »

It means they only die when getting hit by a thrown shoe, instead of exploding in gore, I assume...

I don't know how often you would want to have weaknesses to actual item types.  That sounds weird.  More likely you'd want a critter to be strong to piercing damage, but do that realistically.  However certain fantasy critters do have bizarre weaknesses, so...

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Re: Special weaknesses / strengths.
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2009, 06:06:47 pm »

This would work wonders on the clown mod I'm working on:

[SPECIAL:120:(water data for reactions?)]

For more fun, it could be restricted to certain body parts.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 11:38:28 pm »

You'll be able to do this with poisons at least in the new material system.  So you could make silver act as a contact poison for werewolves only, and they'd be damaged (however you choose) by getting silver dust on their skin.  I don't think getting stabbed with a silver weapon would cause the poisoning effects, though.
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 02:58:17 am »

Could this work with weapon types? Axes stronger than swords - swords stronger than spears etc etc.
Just throwing this out there, we could come up with badass strengths/weaknesses
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 02:59:38 am »

Could this work with weapon types? Axes stronger than swords - swords stronger than spears etc etc.
Just throwing this out there, we could come up with badass strengths/weaknesses

Best way would be messing with tissue properties to allow different resistance to different damage types.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 04:47:31 am »

Could this work with weapon types? Axes stronger than swords - swords stronger than spears etc etc.
Just throwing this out there, we could come up with badass strengths/weaknesses

Best way would be messing with tissue properties to allow different resistance to different damage types.
That would work with races but I was referring to advantages in combat only looking at weapon class(axe, sword, hammer etc).
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2009, 06:53:36 am »

You'll be able to do this with poisons at least in the new material system.  So you could make silver act as a contact poison for werewolves only, and they'd be damaged (however you choose) by getting silver dust on their skin.  I don't think getting stabbed with a silver weapon would cause the poisoning effects, though.

Actually, I think it will.  Poisoning is based off of the material, and both silver dust and a silver knifeblade would use the same material.  Or at least, it should/will when Toady gets around to it.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 07:15:34 am »

Could this work with weapon types? Axes stronger than swords - swords stronger than spears etc etc.
Just throwing this out there, we could come up with badass strengths/weaknesses

Best way would be messing with tissue properties to allow different resistance to different damage types.
That would work with races but I was referring to advantages in combat only looking at weapon class(axe, sword, hammer etc).

You want the game to be like Fire Emblem?
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 08:16:12 am »

Could this work with weapon types? Axes stronger than swords - swords stronger than spears etc etc.
Just throwing this out there, we could come up with badass strengths/weaknesses

Best way would be messing with tissue properties to allow different resistance to different damage types.
That would work with races but I was referring to advantages in combat only looking at weapon class(axe, sword, hammer etc).

You want the game to be like Fire Emblem?

close but not exactly, I'm not sure how exactly weapons work right now but the only difference seems to be the type of damage(blunt, pierce or slash) and the amount of damage a weapon does.
I was thinking more along the lines of if you're using an axe and you're fighting against a swordsman, you'll have a worse chance of hitting him but a better chance of doing a critical hit or breaking his weapon if you do hit as an example.
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« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 08:52:57 am »

You'll be able to do this with poisons at least in the new material system.  So you could make silver act as a contact poison for werewolves only, and they'd be damaged (however you choose) by getting silver dust on their skin.  I don't think getting stabbed with a silver weapon would cause the poisoning effects, though.

Actually, I think it will.  Poisoning is based off of the material, and both silver dust and a silver knifeblade would use the same material.  Or at least, it should/will when Toady gets around to it.

I am not sure that it would work in the next version [it should work -of course- in the future versions at least], since the knife itself will be an item, while the "silver dust" would act like a poison...but who knows..perhaps you should ask about this in the FotF topic.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 10:13:53 am »

Actually, I think it will.  Poisoning is based off of the material, and both silver dust and a silver knifeblade would use the same material.  Or at least, it should/will when Toady gets around to it.

The material still has to be delivered in a way the game accounts for.  From what we've seen of the next version, those ways are breathing the dust/mist/vapor, getting the dust/mist/liquid on your skin, or being injected with a liquid/powder.  The first two can happen from whatever's floating around in the environment, but injection requires the explicit use a creature special attack, which isn't applicable to a weapon.  So no, I don't see it working.  Could be wrong though.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 10:27:12 am »

Resistance to piercing/bludgeoning/slashing is also -definitely- in next round, just not in the stereotypical videogame manner.  You set the material strengths instead, and physics does the rest.
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 04:14:49 pm »

Maybe stabbing tih a poisoned (at alchemist's) dagger/sword would count as injecting? Aslo this injecting, will wi be getting sharp things coated in medicine for doctors to stab in people (like that needle theripy in china)?
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