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[Urist McShire]

You can allow one of your ores to be used in construction, through <z> ---> Stones.  Just remember to disallow it, once you have a piece of charcoal to build a new wood furnace.

Last I checked, copper nuggets were not magma safe.

[Henny]

You can allow one of your ores to be used in construction, through <z> ---> Stones.  Just remember to disallow it, once you have a piece of charcoal to build a new wood furnace.

Last I checked, copper nuggets were not magma safe.

I thought one only needs fire-safe materials to build the needed workshops, though?

[sal880612m]

Yep, fire-safe is all you need if it isn't a magma furnace but since a significant portion of stones and IIRC all metals, glasses, and ceramics are fire safe no one really mentions it all that much.

[TheFlame52]

What qualifies as fire-safe? Lead and its alloy metals melt in FIREJET fire

[BlackFlyme]

What qualifies as fire-safe? Lead and its alloy metals melt in FIREJET fire

Lead, tin, zinc, bismuth, and all three types of pewter are not fire-safe metals. Anything that is stable at a temperature of 11,000 U is considered fire safe by the game.

[MrsStick]

I'm training up my melee squad by sending them to attack captured goblins tied up in my room of restraint(s). I checked the reports for this last one I sent...and it was, well, d0rfy.

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The militia commander bashes The Goblin Axeman in the upper body with his (-steel war hammer-), bruising the muscle and tearing the middle spine's nervous tissue!
The militia commander punches The Goblin Axeman in the lower lip with his left hand, bruising the muscle!
The militia commander bashes The Goblin Axeman in the lower body with his (-steel war hammer-), bruising the muscle and tearing the lower spine's nervous tissue!
The militia commander bites The Goblin Axeman in the upper body, tearing the muscle and bruising the liver!
The militia commander latches on firmly!
The Goblin Axeman misses The militia commander!
The militia commander shakes The Goblin Axeman around by the upper body, tearing apart the upper body's fat!
The militia commander shakes The Goblin Axeman around by the uppe rbody, tearing apart the upper body's fat!

He eventually did get back to using his war hammer, steel buckler, punches, and kicks before finishing him off with the help of his squadmate who arrived with steel battle axe. But seriously? Why would you stop hammering and start punching/biting/shaking? I promise that goblins taste terrible. I don't even need to taste one to assure you of that!

Edited to add: I now have a gem setter on break in that room of future-military-training-fodder. Hiding between two chained goblins. Really? "He has admired a fine restraint lately."

[puke]

Chained hostiles are not automatically attacked if you station a squad nearby, are they?  Did you use a kill order to achieve this?

Is the Gem Setter in danger / receiving attacks?  is he trapped as in he wants to run, but the chained Gobbos are blocking his exit?  I thought chained hostiles panicked civilians, but it's been a while since I had any.

This is actually a pretty brilliant training setup, I might improve it by using wooden training weapons to get more longevity out of the gobbos.  But I am very interested in this.  Would like to hear more.

[BlackFlyme]

Chained hostiles are not automatically attacked if you station a squad nearby, are they?  Did you use a kill order to achieve this?

Is the Gem Setter in danger / receiving attacks?  is he trapped as in he wants to run, but the chained Gobbos are blocking his exit?  I thought chained hostiles panicked civilians, but it's been a while since I had any.

This is actually a pretty brilliant training setup, I might improve it by using wooden training weapons to get more longevity out of the gobbos.  But I am very interested in this.  Would like to hear more.

Your militia won't attack automatically, but caravan guards will. If you want to use them for training, you will want to keep the restraints away from where caravans may see them. You can get your militia to attack the restrained creatures with a kill order.

Restrained creatures won't actively fight back, but when attacked they may be able to counterstrike. Chained creatures do not panic civilians.

[puke]

Cool, thanks for the details.

[MrsStick]

BlackFlyme said it all. I use a kill order. I actually need to put out more cage traps because I'm out of *ahem* training aids. I have a room next to my workshop room with restraints all along the wall. The only thing to make sure of is that you have taken all armor/weapons from the gobbos, or else your n00b dwarves might get killed. Ask me how I know that one...

So wait at least a few months after designating the gobbos' stuff for dumping and confirm that it has been removed (check your dump) before chaining or else you'll have to be very careful on who kills whom.

[Zarathustra30]

So, I was being invaded by about 20 goblins. My highly-trained military could take them, so I sent them out. When I realized that was just the initial wave of a 150+ invasion force, I decided to retreat, closing my outer drawbridge behind my forces.  Unfortunately, my Captain of the Guard, one of the most badass of badasses (knocked out a goblin's teeth into the face of his friend, killing them both), was locked outside.  I decided to open the gate for him. He was promptly atomsmashed.

[shevtsov200]

Why would you stop hammering and start punching/biting/shaking?

I think, his hammer stucked and he didn't want to twist it.

[Kreydurst]

He was promptly atomsmashed.

And this is the reason I always build a 2z level deep "Bridge" moat with no ramps (only staircases on the side.) To prevent accidental atom smashing.

[pisskop]

A real predator, that.

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[sal880612m]

A real predator, that.

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.... .... .... .... .... I wonder what a mouse would do to it?