Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[TolyK]

the thing is that water and magma (don't ask if you don't wanna know) keep the speed of falling the same. so falling into an abyss that's 100 z-levels of water (provided 1 z-level fall before hitting water)  is actually BETTER than falling off a 20 z-level cliff.

[Iados]

1: Forgetting that mining designation doesn't cancel the floor above the tile.
R.I.P. Urist McMiner

2: Raised the 2 bridges at fortress entrance for blocking outside a thief, one soldier get stuck between them. Lowered them.
R.I.P. Urist McSoldier
EDIT: also R.I.P Urist McPaesant, died with McSoldier

[Rockphed]

I get that with goblin squads containing a snatched dwarf. Fun ensues every time, at least for them. It's a real pain, since they still rise as ghosts and ghosts kill my FPS and I have 14 dwarves inside and several dozen assorted corpses outside and I am not opening the drawbridge without switching invaders off.

That is what slabs are for.  The real problem is finding the dwarves to memorialize in the listing.

[Sutremaine]

I don't have any pause boxes with butchered animals. The only line you need to change for dwarves is the one about citizen deaths.

That is what slabs are for.  The real problem is finding the dwarves to memorialize in the listing.

They're either not in the listing, or they're one of the blank entries. But since they vanish off the units list (the very first message of the fortress was the one about horrifying screams... those aren't on the units list any more), it's more likely to be the first.

Although... there's a dead snatched hammerdwarf lying around who's still in the Unit list. I'll see what happens once I get the haunting message.

Edit: No haunting message, just the slowdown. Dwarf does not appear in the unit list except when hovering around, and does not appear in the memorial list even when on the unit list as Undead. At that point the only way of getting rid of the ghost is to manually shove it in a coffin.

Pre-emptively creating a memorial keeps the dwarf as Deceased and avoids the whole mess.

[twilightdusk]

(the very first message of the fortress was the one about horrifying screams...

That's...your map opens down right into the HFS.

[TolyK]

HEY POST THAT SAVE RIGHT NOW PLEASE AS A COURTESY TO THE FORUM. THANK YOU!

[Sutremaine]

Which it shouldn't do because the blue stuff is below ground where it should be, and jumping to the announcement took me to an unrevealed patch of rock on... some level I forgot to make a note of. The site geography is a little unusual, although I don't know if it's strange at all. The magma starts at level 114 and the map bottoms out at 2. I followed it down to level 96 or so, and it seems that the spires are just very long.

No need for caps, it's really not that exciting. Although I can still post it if you want to do experiments.

[TolyK]

yes please
sorry I just hit my caps lock key unconsiously. I love experimenting with these things. i once got 5 embarks of 200 war dogs to take them out. and idiot dwarves too.

[Sutremaine]

Right, this is odd. In trying to pin down the embark tiles needed to get the announcement (which originates on level 2), I found... well...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

So uh, god knows what's actually down there if you get a functioning embark.

Here are the worldgen settings

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Created in DF v0.31.18. (Also in Windows 7 64-bit, if that affects the RNG.)

[WORLD_GEN]
   [TITLE:CUSTOM]
   [SEED:3308773532]
   [HISTORY_SEED:1797060560]
   [NAME_SEED:266733416]
   [CREATURE_SEED:682240776]
   [DIM:65:129]
   [EMBARK_POINTS:1274]
   [END_YEAR:1050]
   [BEAST_END_YEAR:200:80]
   [REVEAL_ALL_HISTORY:1]
   [CULL_HISTORICAL_FIGURES:1]
   [ELEVATION:99:400:202:401]
   [RAINFALL:0:100:101:200]
   [TEMPERATURE:25:75:101:200]
   [DRAINAGE:0:100:101:200]
   [VOLCANISM:0:100:101:200]
   [SAVAGERY:30:100:101:200]
   [ELEVATION_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [RAIN_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [DRAINAGE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [TEMPERATURE_FREQUENCY:1:1:1:1:1:1]
   [SAVAGERY_FREQUENCY:2:10:1:1:1:1]
   [VOLCANISM_FREQUENCY:2:10000:100:1:100:10000]
   [MEGABEAST_CAP:25]
   [SEMIMEGABEAST_CAP:50]
   [TITAN_NUMBER:10]
   [TITAN_ATTACK_TRIGGER:80:0:100000]
   [DEMON_NUMBER:24]
   [NIGHT_CREATURE_NUMBER:24]
   [GOOD_SQ_COUNTS:0:256:512]
   [EVIL_SQ_COUNTS:0:256:512]
   [PEAK_NUMBER_MIN:0]
   [PARTIAL_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [COMPLETE_OCEAN_EDGE_MIN:0]
   [VOLCANO_MIN:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:SWAMP:131:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:DESERT:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:FOREST:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:MOUNTAINS:1048:1:1]
   [REGION_COUNTS:OCEAN:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GLACIER:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:TUNDRA:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:GRASSLAND:0:0:0]
   [REGION_COUNTS:HILLS:0:0:0]
   [EROSION_CYCLE_COUNT:250]
   [RIVER_MINS:50:50]
   [PERIODICALLY_ERODE_EXTREMES:0]
   [OROGRAPHIC_PRECIPITATION:1]
   [SUBREGION_MAX:5000]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_COUNT:3]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_OPENNESS_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_PASSAGE_DENSITY_MAX:100]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MIN:0]
   [CAVERN_LAYER_WATER_MAX:100]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_1:1]
   [HAVE_BOTTOM_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_GROUND:5]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_1:8]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_2:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_3:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_4:1]
   [LEVELS_ABOVE_LAYER_5:2]
   [LEVELS_AT_BOTTOM:1]
   [CAVE_MIN_SIZE:5]
   [CAVE_MAX_SIZE:25]
   [MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:12]
   [NON_MOUNTAIN_CAVE_MIN:25]
   [ALL_CAVES_VISIBLE:1]
   [SHOW_EMBARK_TUNNEL:2]
   [TOTAL_CIV_NUMBER:40]
   [TOTAL_CIV_POPULATION:15000]
   [SITE_CAP:524]
   [PLAYABLE_CIVILIZATION_REQUIRED:1]
   [ELEVATION_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [RAIN_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [DRAINAGE_RANGES:0:0:0]
   [SAVAGERY_RANGES:1048:0:1048]
   [VOLCANISM_RANGES:0:0:0]

and a map

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The announcement originates from one of the two mountain squares. Embarking on the 2x2 given results in no announcement, embarking on either of the three by twos marked in red results in the wacky embark. The 3x3 picked out in white functions, as does a 4x3 encompassing the brook. Yes, there are skeletal giant eagles. There is also red sand in the grasslands.

and the mods that are up (I think I got them all).

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

creature_reptiles.txt, new entry

[CREATURE:TURTLE_CAVE_BLIND]
   [DESCRIPTION:A large turtle adapted to cave life. Its meat is fatty and somewhat unpleasant.]
   [NAME:giant cave turtle:giant cave turtles:giant cave turtle]
   [CASTE_NAME:blind cave turtle:blind cave turtles:blind cave turtle]
   [CHILD:1][GENERAL_CHILD_NAME:cave turtle hatchling:cave turtle hatchlings]
   [CREATURE_TILE:'t'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [PETVALUE:200]
   [AMPHIBIOUS]
   [NATURAL][PET][COMMON_DOMESTIC]
   [CARNIVORE]
   [BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]
   [UNDERGROUND_DEPTH:1:2]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:25:50]
   [PREFSTRING:long shells]
   [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:SKULL:MOUTH:RIBCAGE:SHELL]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL:SKIN]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL:LEATHER]
      [REMOVE_MATERIAL:HAIR]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SHELL:SHELL_TEMPLATE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
      [REMOVE_TISSUE:SKIN]
      [REMOVE_TISSUE:HAIR]
      [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:SCALE:SCALE_TEMPLATE]
      [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:SHELL:SHELL_TEMPLATE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SCALE:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
   [SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:HEART:BY_CATEGORY:HEART]
    [PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SCALE:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
      [TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:SHELL_POSITIONS]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
   [TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:200]
   [HAS_NERVES]
   [SPEED:2900]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
   [BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:LIQUID]
   [CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
   [GETS_WOUND_INFECTIONS]
   [GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
   [PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:LIQUID]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:500]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:30000]
   [BODY_SIZE:1:0:150000]
   [BODY_SIZE:2:0:300000]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
   [BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:100:105:108:110:112:115:120]
   [MAXAGE:80:120]
   [ATTACK:BITE:BODYPART:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
      [ATTACK_SKILL:BITE]
      [ATTACK_VERB:bite:bites]
      [ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
      [ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
      [ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
   [DIURNAL]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2000]
   [MUNDANE]
   [CASTE:FEMALE]
      [FEMALE]
   [CASTE:MALE]
      [MALE]
   [SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SCALE]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:GREEN:1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:scales:PLURAL]
      [SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:EYE:EYE]
         [TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BLACK:1]
            [TLCM_NOUN:eyes:PLURAL]

reaction_other, new entry

[REACTION:MAKE_CRYSTAL_GLASS]
   [REACTION NAME:make raw crystal glass]
   [BUILDING:FURNACE_GLASS:CUSTOM_C]
   [BUILDING:FURNACE_GLASS_LAVA:CUSTOM_C]
   [REAGENT:A:1:ROUGH:NONE:GEM:NONE][REACTION_CLASS:GLASSABLE]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:ROUGH:NONE:GLASS:GLASS_CRYSTAL]
   [FUEL]

Wtf, why is that reaction... just that? Oh well, it's there and it should make raw crystal glass. I never actually tested it. In 40d reactions were capable of altering worldgen geography, so just leave this as is.

inorganic_stone_gem.txt, new entry and alteration to existing entry

[INORGANIC:LITHARGE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STONE_TEMPLATE]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:1][DISPLAY_COLOR:4:7:0][TILE:15][IS_GEM:litharge chunk:litharge chunks:OVERWRITE_SOLID]
[ENVIRONMENT_SPEC:GALENA:CLUSTER_SMALL:100]
[REACTION_CLASS:GLASSABLE]

Also add [REACTION_CLASS:GLASSABLE] to the ROCK_CRYSTAL entry.

entity_default.txt, alteration to existing entry

Add [APPOINTED_BY:EXPEDITION_LEADER] to the DUNGEON_MASTER entry. Also remove the brackets around [MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION] and [PUNISHMENT_EXEMPTION], although I don't see how it could make a blind bit of difference.
Add [PERMITTED_REACTION:MAKE_CRYSTAL_GLASS] in with the other permitted reactions.

If that doesn't work then I'll try and get something up on DFFD, but I haven't used it before.

[Oglokoog]

the thing is that water and magma (don't ask if you don't wanna know) keep the speed of falling the same. so falling into an abyss that's 100 z-levels of water (provided 1 z-level fall before hitting water)  is actually BETTER than falling off a 20 z-level cliff.

No, that is not true. A dwarf can fall infinity z-levels and as long as he drops into two (or possibly three) level high water, he'll be perfectly fine (if we disregard the drowning issue).

[Shootandrun]

So I had the wonderful idea of training my military dwarfs at swimming. I am in a terrifying beach, so I thinked it would be useful. But of course, at the same time two zombie whales were breaking in my fortress, going into an rampage and killing dwarfs quickly. So I sended my military, and then every thing failed in my life.

The whales basically did a massacre. Any soldier that was not dead at that moment was in coma for is whole life. And at the same times... Ogres. Three. Near of my fortress. They entered, passed the last whale alive (she was about to die anyway) and started another killing spree. The population of my fortress had dropped from 134 to 116 because of the whales, and now the ogres were just having fun with my civilians.

But of course, I had a plan. All the defenses of my fortress were down, the ten military dwarves were dead, I had ogres killing the cook in the dining room and zombie beasts could enter in my fortress (at this point, there was a little army against me, because I had never tried to make the zombie population outside of my fortress decrease) but I  had a goddamn epic plan.

 All the 103 dwarfs still alive retreated into the deepest part of my fortress. I was doing a little challenge in this fortress and all my dwarfs were trained to fight, a little bit. But of course I had no equipment for them. So deep in my fortress, near the tree farm, i cutted all the trees of the underground and built a carpenter workshop to build wooden armors and shields, as much as possible, while the bad guys in the top were breaking doors and statues, getting near... I digged out after that some of the obsidian layer of my map and then built obsidian shortswords. At the end, half of the dwarfs were equipped with all this scrap before the ogres finally breaked in. And the massacre started again.

Killing, killing and killing. Dorfs flying across the room. The mayor getting owned by a zombie kraken and bleeding to death. The new milita commander, the only one with steel armor and weapons, got destroyed by a zombie tiger. But at the end, I won. 34 dorfs were still alive and nearly nothing else was living on the map. They returned up in the higher levels, reconstructed the doors, rebuilded the defenses, and the fortress started to live again. And then...

Forgotten Beast McWeirdName come in the fortress. It is a giant bear of fire, capable killing dwarfs with his venom.

/Facepalm

[Harbinger]

So I had the wonderful idea of training my military dwarfs at swimming. I am in a terrifying beach, so I thinked it would be useful. But of course, at the same time two zombie whales were breaking in my fortress, going into an rampage and killing dwarfs quickly. So I sended my military, and then every thing failed in my life.

The whales basically did a massacre. Any soldier that was not dead at that moment was in coma for is whole life. And at the same times... Ogres. Three. Near of my fortress. They entered, passed the last whale alive (she was about to die anyway) and started another killing spree. The population of my fortress had dropped from 134 to 116 because of the whales, and now the ogres were just having fun with my civilians.

But of course, I had a plan. All the defenses of my fortress were down, the ten military dwarves were dead, I had ogres killing the cook in the dining room and zombie beasts could enter in my fortress (at this point, there was a little army against me, because I had never tried to make the zombie population outside of my fortress decrease) but I  had a goddamn epic plan.

 All the 103 dwarfs still alive retreated into the deepest part of my fortress. I was doing a little challenge in this fortress and all my dwarfs were trained to fight, a little bit. But of course I had no equipment for them. So deep in my fortress, near the tree farm, i cutted all the trees of the underground and built a carpenter workshop to build wooden armors and shields, as much as possible, while the bad guys in the top were breaking doors and statues, getting near... I digged out after that some of the obsidian layer of my map and then built obsidian shortswords. At the end, half of the dwarfs were equipped with all this scrap before the ogres finally breaked in. And the massacre started again.

Killing, killing and killing. Dorfs flying across the room. The mayor getting owned by a zombie kraken and bleeding to death. The new milita commander, the only one with steel armor and weapons, got destroyed by a zombie tiger. But at the end, I won. 34 dorfs were still alive and nearly nothing else was living on the map. They returned up in the higher levels, reconstructed the doors, rebuilded the defenses, and the fortress started to live again. And then...

Forgotten Beast McWeirdName come in the fortress. It is a giant bear of fire, capable killing dwarfs with his venom.

/Facepalm

I am in awe of the sheer epicness of this...

[iyaerP]

So I had the wonderful idea of training my military dwarfs at swimming. I am in a terrifying beach, so I thinked it would be useful. But of course, at the same time two zombie whales were breaking in my fortress, going into an rampage and killing dwarfs quickly. So I sended my military, and then every thing failed in my life.

The whales basically did a massacre. Any soldier that was not dead at that moment was in coma for is whole life. And at the same times... Ogres. Three. Near of my fortress. They entered, passed the last whale alive (she was about to die anyway) and started another killing spree. The population of my fortress had dropped from 134 to 116 because of the whales, and now the ogres were just having fun with my civilians.

But of course, I had a plan. All the defenses of my fortress were down, the ten military dwarves were dead, I had ogres killing the cook in the dining room and zombie beasts could enter in my fortress (at this point, there was a little army against me, because I had never tried to make the zombie population outside of my fortress decrease) but I  had a goddamn epic plan.

 All the 103 dwarfs still alive retreated into the deepest part of my fortress. I was doing a little challenge in this fortress and all my dwarfs were trained to fight, a little bit. But of course I had no equipment for them. So deep in my fortress, near the tree farm, i cutted all the trees of the underground and built a carpenter workshop to build wooden armors and shields, as much as possible, while the bad guys in the top were breaking doors and statues, getting near... I digged out after that some of the obsidian layer of my map and then built obsidian shortswords. At the end, half of the dwarfs were equipped with all this scrap before the ogres finally breaked in. And the massacre started again.

Killing, killing and killing. Dorfs flying across the room. The mayor getting owned by a zombie kraken and bleeding to death. The new milita commander, the only one with steel armor and weapons, got destroyed by a zombie tiger. But at the end, I won. 34 dorfs were still alive and nearly nothing else was living on the map. They returned up in the higher levels, reconstructed the doors, rebuilded the defenses, and the fortress started to live again. And then...

Forgotten Beast McWeirdName come in the fortress. It is a giant bear of fire, capable killing dwarfs with his venom.

/Facepalm

I am in awe of the sheer epicness of this...

SERIOUSLY. Shootandrun, My hat is off to you.

[Iados]

discovering water pressure

'nuff said, happens to everybody

[kaapelikala]

Why, oh why. Why is my civ's leader a "Queen/drunk"?