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timmeh

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Dungeon Master and Vermin
« on: April 16, 2009, 03:47:27 pm »
My dungeon master keeps wandering around my fortress catching and releasing vermin... is this normal?

Either way, what should I do with all these vermin?  I'm considering either testing my drowning pit, or modding the game to let me train them into war animals....
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 03:51:32 pm »
keep them. your dwarves will eat them
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Quote from: Aspgren on April 17, 2009, 01:36:31 pm
I think it'd be better to just throw him in a pit.
By pit I mean "ledge designated as pit some 30 levels above the ground water magma" and that would,as they say be the end of that.
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 03:52:31 pm »
Vermin don't drown or burn, and can't be trained. They're an entirely different class of creature from the ones that show up in the units list; about all you can do with them is catch them, tame them, eat them, and extract things from them.
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timmeh

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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 04:01:49 pm »
Quote from: Derakon on April 16, 2009, 03:52:31 pm
Vermin don't drown or burn, and can't be trained. They're an entirely different class of creature from the ones that show up in the units list; about all you can do with them is catch them, tame them, eat them, and extract things from them.

Oh well, thanks.

Can they still be eaten after being tamed?
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Quote from: hjd_uk on June 01, 2010, 05:30:58 am
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 04:05:59 pm »
If you have tamed vermin, mark them for being adoptable.

Dwarves who like that particular kind of vermin will pick up the vermin as a pet. However instead of following them around and eating up CPU cycles, they will instead carry the pet in their inventory.
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 06:32:59 pm »
Quote from: Hyndis on April 16, 2009, 04:05:59 pm
If you have tamed vermin, mark them for being adoptable.

Dwarves who like that particular kind of vermin will pick up the vermin as a pet. However instead of following them around and eating up CPU cycles, they will instead carry the pet in their inventory.

Awesome, thanks!
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Quote from: hjd_uk on June 01, 2010, 05:30:58 am
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 07:05:03 pm »
Don't tame a lot of vermin. You'll only ever get a few dwarves who adopt them, so you'll have pages and pages on your animal screen of tame lizards, rats, and roaches.

And tame vermin can't be used for extraction jobs, like fire snakes, I think, and maybe one or two others.

Best just to catch them, forbid the useful ones, and let your dwarves eat the others.
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 07:20:22 pm »
Quote from: timmeh on April 16, 2009, 03:47:27 pm
modding the game to let me train them into war animals....

OH GOD THEY HAVE WAR SQUIRRELS!!!

This needs to be implemented. :)
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 07:58:48 pm »
I've made tamable squirrels that aren't vermin.  They pretty much act like cats (but don't have the vermin catcher tag but that's easily implimented).  Just put them under your other domestic creatures, and you'll be able to embark with them.  Add in the [trainable] if you want hunting/war squirrels (just remember they deal damage like cats).

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[CREATURE:SQUIRREL]
   [NAME:squirrel:squirrels:squirrel]
   [TILE:133][COLOR:6:0:0]
   [PETVALUE:20]
   [CARNIVORE][NATURAL][PET]
   [LARGE_ROAMING]
   [COMMON_DOMESTIC][BENIGN]
   [PREFSTRING:tails]
   [BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:CAT_MOUTH]
   [BODYGLOSS:PAW]
   [SIZE:3]
   [MAXAGE:10:20]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:squirrel pup:squirrel puppies]
   [FAT:1]
   [DIURNAL]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10070]
   [LAYERING:100]
   [SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [MUNDANE]

-P.C.
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Re: Dungeon Master and Vermin
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 08:02:48 pm »
Quote from: MatrexsVigil on April 16, 2009, 07:58:48 pm
I've made tamable squirrels that aren't vermin.  They pretty much act like cats (but don't have the vermin catcher tag but that's easily implimented).  Just put them under your other domestic creatures, and you'll be able to embark with them.  Add in the [trainable] if you want hunting/war squirrels (just remember they deal damage like cats).

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[CREATURE:SQUIRREL]
[NAME:squirrel:squirrels:squirrel]
[TILE:133][COLOR:6:0:0]
[PETVALUE:20]
[NATURAL][PET]
[LARGE_ROAMING]
[COMMON_DOMESTIC][BENIGN]
[PREFSTRING:bushy tails]
[BODY:QUADRUPED:TAIL:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:CAT_MOUTH]
[BODYGLOSS:PAW]
[SIZE:2]
[MAXAGE:10:20]
[ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
[CHILD:1][CHILDNAME:squirreling:squirrel puppies]
[FAT:1]
[DIURNAL]
[STANDARD_FLESH]
[HOMEOTHERM:10070]
[LAYERING:100]
[SWIMS_INNATE][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
[MUNDANE]
-P.C.
Would this not work better?
Considering squirrels are not carnivores. Did I do something wrong?
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