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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2009, 03:36:40 pm »

Like to make them tweet things they may not want tweeted?  That would be bad.

Or even worse, hack into a celebrity's twitter and tweet something horrifying like goatse.  That would be the psychological equivalent of a nuclear bomb.

A terrible thought, I'll never have twitter.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2009, 05:06:19 pm »

All those celebrity hounds deserve it.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2009, 06:02:25 pm »

Like to make them tweet things they may not want tweeted?  That would be bad.

Or even worse, hack into a celebrity's twitter and tweet something horrifying like goatse.  That would be the psychological equivalent of a nuclear bomb.

A terrible thought, I'll never have twitter.

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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2009, 06:28:10 pm »

I never google anything that sounds as ominous as that.  I learned my lesson long ago.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2009, 07:03:58 pm »

I'd like to point out that this isn't a new debate, they said the same thing about the written word, radio, television, etc. Almost every form of communication has been call harmful to society or the human mind. Hell I for one wouldn't be able to remember The Oddessy and a hundred more stories like it like Homer did but in exchange humanity gained the ability share ideas and thought more easily.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2009, 07:50:38 pm »

I'd like to point out that this isn't a new debate, they said the same thing about the written word, radio, television, etc. Almost every form of communication has been call harmful to society or the human mind. Hell I for one wouldn't be able to remember The Oddessy and a hundred more stories like it like Homer did but in exchange humanity gained the ability share ideas and thought more easily.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2009, 07:55:48 pm »

I'd like to point out that this isn't a new debate, they said the same thing about the written word, radio, television, ...
Any everyone of those things did push people further away from each other.  Twitter and facebook and the rest doesnt create social networking, it destroys it.  Ever wonder why younger people seem to have so much trouble verbally communicating themselves  (...umm like, umm, like, dude, you know, its like, uhhh, whatever man...)?  I have watched teens text to each other in the same room and not talk.  Texts, twits, blogs, forums, facebooks, emails, its all a way to communicate with less chance for reprisal for what we say.  In other words, the worst of ourselves we normally keep hidden from each other so as to create civilization is unleashed in cyberspace.  We start reading everyone else secrets, desires, hates and BS, and we start to project that cyber insanity upon those people we know and talk to in real life and start to wonder "are they one of those who think that...".  The current world hysteria (IMHO) is a prime example of that insanity moving from cyberspace to everyday interactions that ends up creating socio-political idealogy.  HECK - I feel like a schmuck just for posting to this forum every few days, even tho its the only forum I post to, and I am a schmuck anyway.

If you wanna socially connect:  go make a friend in the real world.  Walk up and say "HI!" to everyone you see.  99.9% of people are starved for pleasant friendly connections and interactions.  If someone says instead "Hey, screw you jack off!", then just move on to the next person and say "HI", cuz the angry fellow was probably watching/reading to much cybercrap and was full of anger at people he has never met and has no outlet for his rage at things that dont actually effect his own life!

That being said, I am going to a Tea Party now  (to make new friends to rage at things - oh, the irony) :P


edit:  spelling, and to say, I am not really going to a tea party.  but i thought about it.........
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2009, 08:21:39 pm »


 In other words, the worst of ourselves we normally keep hidden from each other so as to create civilization is unleashed in cyberspace.  We start reading everyone else secrets, desires, hates and BS, and we start to project that cyber insanity upon those people we know and talk to in real life and start to wonder "are they one of those who think that...".  The current world hysteria (IMHO) is a prime example of that insanity moving from cyberspace to everyday interactions that ends up creating socio-political idealogy. 


And what about letter writing and the telephone? You say that people didn't express they're secret desires or wondered about peoples real motives before the dawn of facebook but every form of conveying and idea like body language to writing is just a form of expressing that.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2009, 08:43:07 pm »

I'd like to point out that this isn't a new debate, they said the same thing about the written word, radio, television, ...
Any everyone of those things did push people further away from each other.  Twitter and facebook and the rest doesnt create social networking, it destroys it.  Ever wonder why younger people seem to have so much trouble verbally communicating themselves  (...umm like, umm, like, dude, you know, its like, uhhh, whatever man...)?  I have watched teens text to each other in the same room and not talk.  Texts, twits, blogs, forums, facebooks, emails, its all a way to communicate with less chance for reprisal for what we say.  In other words, the worst of ourselves we normally keep hidden from each other so as to create civilization is unleashed in cyberspace.  We start reading everyone else secrets, desires, hates and BS, and we start to project that cyber insanity upon those people we know and talk to in real life and start to wonder "are they one of those who think that...".  The current world hysteria (IMHO) is a prime example of that insanity moving from cyberspace to everyday interactions that ends up creating socio-political idealogy.  HECK - I feel like a schmuck just for posting to this forum every few days, even tho its the only forum I post to, and I am a schmuck anyway.

If you wanna socially connect:  go make a friend in the real world.  Walk up and say "HI!" to everyone you see.  99.9% of people are starved for pleasant friendly connections and interactions.  If someone says instead "Hey, screw you jack off!", then just move on to the next person and say "HI", cuz the angry fellow was probably watching/reading to much cybercrap and was full of anger at people he has never met and has no outlet for his rage at things that dont actually effect his own life!

That being said, I am going to a Tea Party now  (to make new friends to rage at things - oh, the irony) :P


edit:  spelling, and to say, I am not really going to a tea party.  but i thought about it.........
I guess it comes down to how you handle it all. I see people on the net being sociopathic assholes, and I know it's a reflection of how they might want to behave, even if it's just trolling. But I also know that there's a reason they want to behave that way, and that they aren't any worse than I could have been if I had grown up differently. I don't get angry at them, because that just reenforces their fear and anger. Instead I joke with them. Or I at least make them know that I know where they're coming from (indirectly), even if it's something horrific and disgusting to me like animal cruelty, and I try to redirect their energy to something better.

I don't think technology pushes people away from each other really. What happens is it gives us the chance to get closer to people that are further away from us, we fight each other less temporarily, the world grows, and conflicts get bigger. You could call them S-curves of human connection I guess. Scary as hell when you consider how many technologies like this have risen to common use in just fifty years compared to the last several hundred years, but I don't think it's really avoidable.

I'm one of those younger people that texts a lot, by the way.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2009, 08:49:23 pm »

Think about this: "What if humans suddenly became telepathic?"

Would the world become a better place in a few generations?
Or one massive violent orgy?
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2009, 08:58:47 pm »

I recently heard (DON'T KNOW IF IT IS FACT) that texting has been linked to poor social skills.

I have no texting on my phone.  8)
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2009, 09:00:34 pm »

I recently heard (DON'T KNOW IF IT IS FACT) that texting has been linked to poor social skills.

I have no texting on my phone.  8)

Then what you heard has been disproven, apparently.

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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2009, 09:01:08 pm »

Think about this: "What if humans suddenly became telepathic?"

Would the world become a better place in a few generations?
Or one massive violent orgy?

I always thought things would get a lot better on the personal scale. The fundamental issue I believe is that we don't really believe other people are human until we talk with them long enough, and if we actually felt their anger and misery when we did crappy things to them, we might be forced to reevaluate our actions. Of course, if the telepathy were limited in practical range, with an S-curve like I said we'd inevitably end up expanding to a point where that no longer matters to us.

Which, I believe, is the next level of unwieldy transportation; regional identity is limited by how far each person in its limits can move without restraint in any direction, and we've already gotten to the point where it's possible for nearly anyone on average to get nearly anywhere in the world with the right payment. As far as I can bullshit, war can't really happen within a single region; even the civil war had its division. So if people get connected this way, and moon people aren't connected to earth people, there's potential for conflict.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2009, 09:23:04 pm »

I sincerely hope telepathy never comes to pass. There are things about my teenage years best left buried
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2009, 10:56:00 pm »

that, and how would anyone ever WIN a war if one arose?
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