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LegoLord

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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2009, 08:19:38 pm »

Just where is the internet "centered"(I guess)?  Is it like a bunch of computers scattered about, or just one central computer connected to others via satellite?  This question has baffled me and I have not found an answer.

To (hopefully) clarify, just what is the internet?
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #106 on: April 19, 2009, 08:23:05 pm »

Every website is ultimately stored and hosted on a particular frame somewhere.  Most home computers are routed through ISP service hubs.  But there's literally millions of hosting locations, all accessible from every other.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #107 on: April 19, 2009, 09:26:38 pm »

Which is why a virus would have to be truly massive to actually 'destroy' the internet.
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« Reply #108 on: April 20, 2009, 08:02:28 am »

As for the original story, apparently it was distributed by questionable sources like the Daily Mail, and is actually bullshit, with scientists being misquoted...
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #109 on: April 20, 2009, 08:24:32 am »

Which is why a virus would have to be truly massive to actually 'destroy' the internet.
Or maybe just lucky. The SQL Slammer was only 378 bytes long, but in ten minutes it had taken down huge segments of the internet. And I note only a few computers were actually vulnerable to it.

It happened once, it can happen again.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2009, 08:52:51 am »

SQL Slammer
Somewhere in that link, you managed to screw up badly.
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #111 on: April 20, 2009, 05:30:15 pm »

Ah, thanks Aqizzar.  That should help my insomnia a bit (okay, I don't actually have insomnia)

Which is why a virus would have to be truly massive to actually 'destroy' the internet.
Wouldn't such a virus take an obscenely long time to get uploaded and around the place?  Long enough, perhaps, that it would be caught and terminated before anything major happened?
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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #112 on: April 21, 2009, 05:27:08 pm »

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Re: Twitter to Destroy Civilization
« Reply #113 on: April 21, 2009, 05:50:19 pm »

Which is why a virus would have to be truly massive to actually 'destroy' the internet.
Wouldn't such a virus take an obscenely long time to get uploaded and around the place?  Long enough, perhaps, that it would be caught and terminated before anything major happened?

Viruses are fast. Really, really fast. When they want to be. Warhol worms, for example, are defined by infecting 95% of vulnerable hosts in 15 minutes. Since most of the vulnerable hosts are people with no idea about computer security at all, it's unlikely that even if that were 15 hours or 15 days a significant number of the systems could be immunized. Conficker, for example, used a vulnerability that had had a patch available for months before it was released.

Those viruses have a tendency to overload things trying to spread themselves, so they can bring things to a horrible grinding halt (both the virus and the internet) if the creators aren't careful. They've been getting better about that recently, though, and some of them spread themselves extremely slowly and carefully to avoid detection.

How can a virus "destroy" the internet? The short answer is that it can't, but the longer answer is that viruses can use the large amount of bandwidth that they have between all of their infected hosts to saturate a single site (DDoS attack) or slow down traffic for the internet in general (what happens when a virus doesn't spread well). That doesn't actually destroy the internet, but it can slow it down noticeably, normally until ISPs can start blocking infected computers.
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