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posted in the other thread over at general discussion

www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#extremelyTightSpace

DC 80: Extremely tight space
This is the DC for getting through a space when one’s head shouldn’t even be able to fit; this can be as small as 2 inches square for Medium-size creatures. Halve this limit for each size category less than Medium-size; double it for each size category greater than Medium-size. If the space is long, such as in a chimney, multiple checks may be called for.

23 skill ranks
+13 Dexterity (36 dexterity: 18 base, +2 halfling, +5 stat boosts, +5 stat tomes, +5 gloves of dexterity)
+23 item familiar (69 skill ranks placed into item familiar)
+30 custom ring
+2 Llira's Blessing (Player's Guide to Faerun, page 176)
+2 Agile
+3 Skill Focus (escape artist)
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Total = +96 Escape Artist bonus (with Take 10 assuming you have levels in Exemplar)


if done right, you can climb into an enemies anus and get your entire body inside him in only a few combat rounds

either the best rule ever, or the worst
you decide

You sir, are quite twisted.

[Emperor_Jonathan]

Akroma isn't a sir.

[Mulch Diggums]

Yeah he is. Also: RIP Dave..

[Akroma]

there is no place for logic in DnD, only cold-hearthed powergaming

[Tormy]

there is no place for logic in DnD, only cold-hearthed powergaming

Imo all RPGs & MMORPGs are enforcing powergaming...at least if you want to have a strong & successful character. Basically almost everyone wants to have one, correct? 

[Blakmane]

there is no place for logic in DnD, only cold-hearthed powergaming

Imo all RPGs & MMORPGs are enforcing powergaming...at least if you want to have a strong & successful character. Basically almost everyone wants to have one, correct? 

Many indie rpgs are focussed around roleplay rather than combat, and often have simpler rules that aren't as prone to exploitation. It's virtually impossible to powergame in these.

[Puck]

i completed fallout 3 on hard with a subpar character in a "grimy pre-war business suit", because I wanted to play that way, and I'm sure it was more fun than with a proper character in armor.

I mean, games are supposed to make you enjoy yourself, and all the weird kinks you got going on in your head.

so why powergame, unless that kink is minmaxing 

What that has to do with farewell greetings, I dont know. But seriously.... do you think there are many icasoedrae (?) at his burial site already?

[Draco18s]

posted in the other thread over at general discussion

www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#extremelyTightSpace

DC 80: Extremely tight space
This is the DC for getting through a space when one’s head shouldn’t even be able to fit; this can be as small as 2 inches square for Medium-size creatures. Halve this limit for each size category less than Medium-size; double it for each size category greater than Medium-size. If the space is long, such as in a chimney, multiple checks may be called for.

[snip]
either the best rule ever, or the worst
you decide

Meh.  Not at good as Chuck E. Cheese....who could run faster than the speed of light (and do over a trillion damage at the same time).  Errata, however, came along and added some G force to it (actually it errata'd a spell Chuck had been abusing such that it didn't work as needed).

[Tormy]

there is no place for logic in DnD, only cold-hearthed powergaming

Imo all RPGs & MMORPGs are enforcing powergaming...at least if you want to have a strong & successful character. Basically almost everyone wants to have one, correct? 

Many indie rpgs are focussed around roleplay rather than combat, and often have simpler rules that aren't as prone to exploitation. It's virtually impossible to powergame in these.

Care to post some examples?

[Blakmane]

there is no place for logic in DnD, only cold-hearthed powergaming

Imo all RPGs & MMORPGs are enforcing powergaming...at least if you want to have a strong & successful character. Basically almost everyone wants to have one, correct? 

Many indie rpgs are focussed around roleplay rather than combat, and often have simpler rules that aren't as prone to exploitation. It's virtually impossible to powergame in these.

Care to post some examples?

Sorceror, dogs in the vineyard, in a wicked age, burning wheel (to an extent) off the top of my head.

[Tormy]

Hm...I never heard about those to be honest, but again I mostly play with roguelikes. [Needless to say, powergaming is enforced in those also.  ]

[Draco18s]

Sorceror, dogs in the vineyard, in a wicked age, burning wheel (to an extent) off the top of my head.

Dogs in the Vineyard is easy to powergame: there's no rule that says all of your stuff can't be Exceptional.

[Cles]

Sorcerer is easy to powergame in. If you GM hasn't read the rules...

otherwise, enjoy your ability to run through walls Juggernaut-style, because in a few hours your demons will be feasting on your min/maxed ass and each other.