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varkarrus

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Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« on: April 09, 2009, 02:13:57 pm »

I want to make a trap. It would involve a nearby magma pipe, some kind of automated set wood on fire thing, and a catapault. It would fire flaming blocks of wood at helpless elves.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 02:27:34 pm »

Unless the catapault and dwarves were made of iron, it wouldn't work.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 02:49:42 pm »

Why not?
You can make iron bridges, which should fling burning wood just fine.
And you should be able to automate it so now dwarves are harmed in the process.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2009, 03:37:09 pm »

You'd just need some bauxite bridges. I loves it.

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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 03:38:05 pm »

I like it.

Let's see... Would dropping a single unit of magma onto a unit of wood set it on fire properly? The magma would probably fall onto the bridge as well and be flung along with it...

Wait, better idea: Magmapult.

Would that even work?

Or you could make dwarves fire resistant and find a way to have them shoot flaming ballista arrows... Not sure how well that would work.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 05:33:29 pm »

My trash compactor flings garbage everywhere if I activate it prematurely.  So substitute garbage for burning garbage, and you should have a flaming catapult.  You won't be able to aim my design though, it would be pretty much a localized explosion of flaming dead rats, goblin clothing, and xtallow roastsx, followed by a firestorm as the wilderness lights up.

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Design is untested. For all I know 1/7 magma could instantly destroy the garbage.  But what else you have to do with that 100% secure 200 dwarf fort?
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 05:40:18 pm »

Why not?
You can make iron bridges, which should fling burning wood just fine.
And you should be able to automate it so now dwarves are harmed in the process.


Bridge fling is incredibly unreliable, the vast majority of the time the items sort of teleport through the bridge and land on the ground under it, one or 2 spaces away rather then being flung.

I've messed with it extensively in the past and I've never managed to get it to work well at all.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 05:43:40 pm »

It seems to be a % chance.  Usually when something gets flingified it seems to have about a 50% chance of not going anywhere.  And usually if something gets flingified it only seems to have another 50% chance of actually traveling (more or less) in the direction the bridge raises.

P.S. Flingified stuff sometimes goes up at an angle too, and if it can't go up then those ones won't move either.

Usually the more stuff you have on a bridge when you "fire" it the better the chance of something actually traveling to where you want it to go.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 08:19:21 pm »

So you're telling me this is tremendously unreliable, is very likely to throw burning garbage all over the place, and the only way to make sure it hits what you want it to hit is to use a WHOLE LOT of flaming garbage?

What more dwarfy thing could you possibly make!
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 08:23:28 pm »

Why throw small burning things at invaders?  FUCK THE WORLD LEVER is the most dwarven thing I can think of.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 08:26:03 pm »

Because we don't have that much magma anymore.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2009, 11:20:47 am »

Make a magma reservoir. You stockpile the magma and then launch it out of your spiral mountain like a volcano exploding. it also makes great moats...
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2009, 04:43:44 am »

I like it.

Let's see... Would dropping a single unit of magma onto a unit of wood set it on fire properly? The magma would probably fall onto the bridge as well and be flung along with it...

Wait, better idea: Magmapult.

Would that even work?

Or you could make dwarves fire resistant and find a way to have them shoot flaming ballista arrows... Not sure how well that would work.

Shoot the bolt through a piece of burning coal or similar?
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2009, 06:03:05 am »

You could just light the bolt first, then have them fire it. I suggest dropping a single unit of magma onto a ballista bolt lying on a grate.
I'm not sure if it would stay lit after being fired, though.
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Re: Flaming Block of Wood-apault
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2009, 05:01:05 am »

You could just light the bolt first, then have them fire it. I suggest dropping a single unit of magma onto a ballista bolt lying on a grate.
I'm not sure if it would stay lit after being fired, though.

Isn't that dangerous for the dwarf who will fire the balista?  ;D
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