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Akroma

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civil national security force
« on: April 09, 2009, 10:39:12 am »

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Re: civil national security force
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 10:47:46 am »

I was alarmed by this before he was even elected.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 11:05:42 am »

That's what paranoia will do to you. Have two rednecks threaten your life, and you have all the power of the CIA and FBI at your disposal.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2009, 03:59:36 pm »

What?

If somebody starts hosting a private militia in their town the local and national governments go haywire.  Yet if the PotUS decides he wants his own private army, it's okay?

What?

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 04:09:47 pm »

Isn't that basically... the national guard?

Blog writer lost all credibility when Godwin's Law was broken, I'm afraid.

Edit: I didn't know this when I voted, but something still seems wrong, here.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2009, 04:12:27 pm by Keiseth »
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 04:16:51 pm »

Just to clarify early on I'd like to ask a few questions.

1. Does this orginization answer directly to the president?

2. Are they allowed to take action without congressional authority?

3. What's the difference between a civilian orginization and a normal one?

4. What are the proposed duties of the orginization, are they peacekeeping or reserves in case of an emergency like a militia?

5. What are the requirements for membership, do you need a military backround or do they except raw recruits?

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Oh and 6. The blog was very vague about this and that quote seems very out a context, is there a longer version of the quote and has Obama even propose anything like this yet publicly?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2009, 04:21:27 pm by Smitehappy »
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 06:31:29 pm »

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 07:40:13 pm »

I'm ashamed to say it but I fell for Obama's friendly face aswell :(

He's just a fresh face on an old turd tbh.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 07:46:52 pm »

It's the national guard. (I have read this story (by a different person) before)
He's talking about upgrading them...

(Well, I'm not an Amerikken by teh way)
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 08:13:31 pm »

Yeah. I've known about this for a while, and the alarmists are wrong. It's not a civilian army, and it's not mandatory. The concept is that a person can volunteer to participate in the program that would do things such as disaster prevention and relief, charitable work, that sort of thing. Stuff that the already overstretched military is usually called in to do. Then, after doing the service, you are rewarded with a college scholarship.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 09:46:06 pm »

I didnt vote for him and I saw this coming.

He has spoken in the past of wanting mandatory service of 50-100 hours from kids (junior high and up). 

Sending your kids to unsafe places (like the stuff our "overstretched military" does, in dangerous places, which is why they do it, cuz its dangerous...) to do things grown ups should be doing.

OK, I will say it and then you can all explode:
The Obama Youth aka Obama Jungen
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2009, 01:32:42 am »

I think you're missing the point. More broadly, it's an organizational system to hook people up with community service volunteer work that is rewarded with free college. That is not a bad thing. There are plenty of community service jobs open for teenagers. I know because did do that sort of thing in middle school when I was put in in school suspension, we had the option of doing community service work or helping non-profit organizations as an alternative to sitting in the suspension room for days on end.

What I was referring to, as far as stuff the national guard would be called into help with, is stuff people already in college would be doing. Stuff like helping with sandbagging in flood areas and the like, and for that age group maybe participating in the Meals on Wheels program that I used to help with,

It's  a scholarship program, not a method of exterminating the Jews.

And again, it's not mandatory.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2009, 01:47:16 am »

I didnt vote for him and I saw this coming.

He has spoken in the past of wanting mandatory service of 50-100 hours from kids (junior high and up). 

Sending your kids to unsafe places (like the stuff our "overstretched military" does, in dangerous places, which is why they do it, cuz its dangerous...) to do things grown ups should be doing.

OK, I will say it and then you can all explode:
The Obama Youth aka Obama Jungen

I'm not going to explode all that spectacularly but that was a enormously stupid thing to say. Don't be so moronic. Obama Jungen? Jesus....
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2009, 01:54:32 am »

Okay, seriously, what's all this shit about Obama being hitler and whatnot? You people are going off of an out-of-context quote about the Peacecorp, for Armok's sake!
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2009, 03:36:43 am »

OBAMA IS THE NEW HITLER BY WAY OF JOHN JONES

HE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY YOUR RIGHT TO STOCKPILE AMMUNITION AND BREEDING FEMALES

HE'S PAVING THE WAY FOR HIS NEW WORLD ORDER BACKED BY RUSSIAN OLIGARCH'S AND OLD NAZI GOLD STOCKPILES HIDDEN BY THE ILLUMINATI WHO ARE SECRETLY FREEMASON ZIONIST HOMOSEXUALS

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