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[timmeh]

I just had a dwarf die by drowning, but he was on the upper floor of my barracks building.  My only thought is that the same square he died on had a pool of blood on it, as did almost all of the squares near it (horrible, horrible training accident... note to self: don't let legendary axe dwarf spar with the recruits).  Is it possible in DF for a dwarf to drown in his own blood?

[Footkerchief]

Yes.  Lung injuries often result in the lungs filling with blood and the game labels the death as a drowning.

[timmeh]

Yes.  Lung injuries often result in the lungs filling with blood and the game labels the death as a drowning.

That's..... awesome.

Although I'd love to know how the poor guy got a lung wound from an axedwarf...

Thanks!

[Lucifer]

This is the most coolest thing I've ever heard so far... Me so happy now *cries out in tears*

[Carcer]

Just saying, legendary dwarves are actually safer to train with. Its the newbies who don't know that the pointy end is sharp that are generally the problem.

[timmeh]

Just saying, legendary dwarves are actually safer to train with. Its the newbies who don't know that the pointy end is sharp that are generally the problem.

From what I understand, the defender's Wrestler determines their ability to dodge, and the attacker's weapon skill determines their ability to hit.  If that is correct, and unless there is a special condition for sparring, this would mean that legendary dwarves are more likely to hit (and hurt, wielding and axe) recruits, than a recruit would be.  Is there a mechanic built in to assist safe sparring (okay, safer)?

[Footkerchief]

From what I understand, the defender's Wrestler determines their ability to dodge, and the attacker's weapon skill determines their ability to hit.  If that is correct, and unless there is a special condition for sparring, this would mean that legendary dwarves are more likely to hit (and hurt, wielding and axe) recruits, than a recruit would be.  Is there a mechanic built in to assist safe sparring (okay, safer)?

Yeah, there is a mechanic.  When sparring, dwarves attempt to make a sparring hit as opposed to a full-force hit.  Their chance of succeeding increases with their skill with the weapon.  So legendaries using their preferred weapon are incredibly safe to spar with.  However, legendaries with an unfamiliar weapon are deadly due to clumsiness combined with superdwarvenly everything attributes.

[timmeh]

From what I understand, the defender's Wrestler determines their ability to dodge, and the attacker's weapon skill determines their ability to hit.  If that is correct, and unless there is a special condition for sparring, this would mean that legendary dwarves are more likely to hit (and hurt, wielding and axe) recruits, than a recruit would be.  Is there a mechanic built in to assist safe sparring (okay, safer)?

Yeah, there is a mechanic.  When sparring, dwarves attempt to make a sparring hit as opposed to a full-force hit.  Their chance of succeeding increases with their skill with the weapon.  So legendaries using their preferred weapon are incredibly safe to spar with.  However, legendaries with an unfamiliar weapon are deadly due to clumsiness combined with superdwarvenly everything attributes.

That's good to know, thanks!  Either way, I've started taking a bit more caution with my sparring, as this is the second death, with the first a suffocation due to a new dwarf jamming a spear through the chest of the other...

[Alex Encandar]

From what I understand, the defender's Wrestler determines their ability to dodge, and the attacker's weapon skill determines their ability to hit.  If that is correct, and unless there is a special condition for sparring, this would mean that legendary dwarves are more likely to hit (and hurt, wielding and axe) recruits, than a recruit would be.  Is there a mechanic built in to assist safe sparring (okay, safer)?

Yeah, there is a mechanic.  When sparring, dwarves attempt to make a sparring hit as opposed to a full-force hit.  Their chance of succeeding increases with their skill with the weapon.  So legendaries using their preferred weapon are incredibly safe to spar with.  However, legendaries with an unfamiliar weapon are deadly due to clumsiness combined with superdwarvenly everything attributes.

That's good to know, thanks!  Either way, I've started taking a bit more caution with my sparring, as this is the second death, with the first a suffocation due to a new dwarf jamming a spear through the chest of the other...

Spears are notoriously dangerous to train in, many people avoid em altogether. They certainly are awesome though

[Zaranthan]

Spears are notoriously dangerous to train in, many people avoid em altogether. They certainly are awesome though

They're also dangerous to bring to battle. Spears have the highest stick chance out of any weapon, so your champion speardwarf gets one or two good charges, then is reduced to being a mere wrestler.

Not that wrestlers are bad, I use them all the time. The problem is dwarf mode soldiers favor twisting stuck weapons over doing anything productive.

[Aspgren]

My experience in this takes me back to an old fortress I had ...

At first the recruits hurt eachother. The reason was because they sparred with iron swords and no armor. I gave them armor and sparring accidents dropped ... and then in the course of 2 years I had 2 dwarves killed and 1 bedwarmer.

The culprit was a legendary guard whom I recruited because he was such a badass. We're talking bottled up rage here... I don't know if that had anything to do with it though. (I don't know for certain he incapacitated the survivor, I just know he probably did given his history)