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[Deadmeat1471]

My butcher butchers animals but no one will ferry the bones to refuse or cstom bone stockpile or anything..... anyone got any ideas why this is? (is all games not just the one)

[RPB]

Is your butcher shop in a place that is technically "above ground"? By default dorfs won't hall refuse that is considered "outside". If you go to [ o]rders -> [r]efuse there's an option to toggle this behavior so they'll haul refuse from outdoors, but this means they may end up running around the entire map picking up random vermin that dies and other useless things.

[Deadmeat1471]

Ah yes this was it, i just fiddled with the options and my 300 or so cat bones were hauled (thanks for info anyway).

Do not ask why i have so many cat bones.   

[yaklin]

we won't ask because we already know the answer

[KylonOrina]

If you didn't have tons of cat bones lying around it wouldn't be dorfy

[Aspgren]

Cat bones? Lying around?

I make bolts out of all mine. I imagine the process is quite simple.

1. Load cat bone into crossbow.
2. Fire at target.
3. Laugh.
4. Drink.
5. Repeat until you're out of bones.

[Deadmeat1471]

I've been devising a catfort.

I started with 30 cats, and i butcher 20 for food, bolts, bows, armor, and whatever else, and i brew drink.

I have a production line which completely converts a cat from useless to useful in 5 easy steps:

Butcher,
Cook,
Tan,
Leatherwork,
Carve into bows + bolts

[Airpi]

And if you're not using the tallow for food, soap it and build with it.

[Deadmeat1471]

Cat tallow pot pie 

[Atlas]

And if you're not using the tallow for food, soap it and build with it.

A cat based fortress!

Make sure you lay out the soap blocks in the shape of a cat face. Then put your cats, butcher shops, etc... inside.

[Enzo]

And if you're not using the tallow for food, soap it and build with it.

A cat based fortress!

Make sure you lay out the soap blocks in the shape of a cat face. Then put your cats, butcher shops, etc... inside.

Seconded. Cat fortress must be shaped like cat.

[Airpi]

I actually wrote up a document a while ago regarding using cats as the main source of food and wealth in a fort. I had planned out a starting build, but I never actually tested it in game to see if it was viable. Maybe this could be an interesting challenge for people?
Everything here is verbatim from the document, except for notes I made in parentheses.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A:Cat Fortress
    a:Histories of Felines and Remorse
        Depending on who you ask, cats are either a useful addition to any fortress or a force of chaos greater than any Goblin or Carp. I've long advocated the controlled keeping of cats as a slow, steady source of bone, meat, leather, and tallow. With a little work, luck, and quick butchers you can harvest the bounty of several breeding pairs of cats without fear of your processor melting due to Catsplosion. But what if one took this concept further? Rather than a useful supplement to the usual economy, what if cats were the staple? This is the challenge of Cat Fortress. Maintain a fortress using cats as the major source of food, wealth, and building material.

    b:Starting Build
    I haven't actually looked in game at what this build would cost, but in my mind it seems like one that would work. Its not imperative that you use this build, but it helped me to conceptualize things. This build doesn't bring an anvil along, as a thriving metallurgy industry would only detract from the cats. Feel free to improve on it though.
Goods
20 Cats (Maybe kittens, since they're cheaper and it would give some time to set up without having to worry about having to butcher the litters)
3 Clear Glass Vials (If possible, like I said I haven't checked. Also, not needed if the map you embark on has sand, and you'd want even more in the long run it doesn't)
20 Ropes (Will cats on ropes adopt dwarves? I don't think they will in cages, but it might be in the spirit of the thing to let them become pets anyway.)
15 Turtles
1 Of all available cheap meat (free barrels)
26 Of each booze
6 Plump Helmet Spawn
6 Sweet Pod Seeds
6 Pig Tail Seeds (All crops used only for brewing/cloth production)
26 Cat Meat
3 Picks
1 Axe
Anything else to flavor

Dwarves
2 Butcher/Miners
1 Tanner/Leatherworker/Miner
1 Soaper/Lye Maker/Potash Maker/Record Keeper/Appraiser/Organizer
1 Bone Crafter/Secondary crafting skills
1 Carpenter/Woodcutter
1 Cooker/Brewer/Grower
(In retrospect Butcher/Miner is probably a bad combination. For me anyway, I tend to do a lot of exploratory mining. If managed properly it could probably work out. Maybe have two miners with secondary crafting skills and one dedicated butcher/tanner)


Cat Fortress will require sand for the production of glass vials for alchemists workshops. All other terrain features are non-required and optional
 
    c:Project Goals
       -Dwarves eat primarily cat meat
       -Build external structures using only cat soap
       -Outfit military using only cat bone
       -Clothe civillians in cat leather clothing
       -Export only cat-related goods
        BONUS MODE!
        -Dwarves eat only cat meat
        -Encourage the depiction of cats in artifacts, wall engravings, etc. (Somehow)
        -Build a shrine to a specific breeding pair of cats, pamper them.
        EXTREME MODE!
        -No dwarves, cats only. (Final Destination?)




    d:Projected Concerns
        -Catspolsion is totally possible.
        -Using only cat bone, the military will be very weak in melee until champion-level fighters are trained, and even then, they're only at a serious disadvantage compared to steel outfitted soldiers.

[Puck]

I figure a cat-fed fortress, that only (mainly) uses kitten resources would be possible, but problematic, since the behaviour of cats to pick their owners and giving the player almost no control over that. I mean, you can't kill EVERY dwarf that got adopted, or can you?

nevertheless, awesome idea.

[Shoku]

1. I think it's specific dwarves that having a liking for cats so if you can stand to off them the rest might not adopt... maybe.

2. I believe if you go into the raws and take out the vermin hunter tag from cats they'll stop adopting themselves to your fortress members.

3. There are some utilities that let you deal with adopted cats.

4. I think the best option for un-adoption is a tightly sealed door in front of a retractable floor. Plenty of cat bones to be got that way and you could just forbid the door when you don't want to cull the pet population.

[Deadmeat1471]

I actually wrote up a document a while ago regarding using cats as the main source of food and wealth in a fort. I had planned out a starting build, but I never actually tested it in game to see if it was viable. Maybe this could be an interesting challenge for people?
Everything here is verbatim from the document, except for notes I made in parentheses.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

A:Cat Fortress
    a:Histories of Felines and Remorse
        Depending on who you ask, cats are either a useful addition to any fortress or a force of chaos greater than any Goblin or Carp. I've long advocated the controlled keeping of cats as a slow, steady source of bone, meat, leather, and tallow. With a little work, luck, and quick butchers you can harvest the bounty of several breeding pairs of cats without fear of your processor melting due to Catsplosion. But what if one took this concept further? Rather than a useful supplement to the usual economy, what if cats were the staple? This is the challenge of Cat Fortress. Maintain a fortress using cats as the major source of food, wealth, and building material.

    b:Starting Build
    I haven't actually looked in game at what this build would cost, but in my mind it seems like one that would work. Its not imperative that you use this build, but it helped me to conceptualize things. This build doesn't bring an anvil along, as a thriving metallurgy industry would only detract from the cats. Feel free to improve on it though.
Goods
20 Cats (Maybe kittens, since they're cheaper and it would give some time to set up without having to worry about having to butcher the litters)
3 Clear Glass Vials (If possible, like I said I haven't checked. Also, not needed if the map you embark on has sand, and you'd want even more in the long run it doesn't)
20 Ropes (Will cats on ropes adopt dwarves? I don't think they will in cages, but it might be in the spirit of the thing to let them become pets anyway.)
15 Turtles
1 Of all available cheap meat (free barrels)
26 Of each booze
6 Plump Helmet Spawn
6 Sweet Pod Seeds
6 Pig Tail Seeds (All crops used only for brewing/cloth production)
26 Cat Meat
3 Picks
1 Axe
Anything else to flavor

Dwarves
2 Butcher/Miners
1 Tanner/Leatherworker/Miner
1 Soaper/Lye Maker/Potash Maker/Record Keeper/Appraiser/Organizer
1 Bone Crafter/Secondary crafting skills
1 Carpenter/Woodcutter
1 Cooker/Brewer/Grower
(In retrospect Butcher/Miner is probably a bad combination. For me anyway, I tend to do a lot of exploratory mining. If managed properly it could probably work out. Maybe have two miners with secondary crafting skills and one dedicated butcher/tanner)


Cat Fortress will require sand for the production of glass vials for alchemists workshops. All other terrain features are non-required and optional
 
    c:Project Goals
       -Dwarves eat primarily cat meat
       -Build external structures using only cat soap
       -Outfit military using only cat bone
       -Clothe civillians in cat leather clothing
       -Export only cat-related goods
        BONUS MODE!
        -Dwarves eat only cat meat
        -Encourage the depiction of cats in artifacts, wall engravings, etc. (Somehow)
        -Build a shrine to a specific breeding pair of cats, pamper them.
        EXTREME MODE!
        -No dwarves, cats only. (Final Destination?)




    d:Projected Concerns
        -Catspolsion is totally possible.
        -Using only cat bone, the military will be very weak in melee until champion-level fighters are trained, and even then, they're only at a serious disadvantage compared to steel outfitted soldiers.

Im gonna try this later XD