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Strife26

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Hyper Inflation is fun!
« on: April 01, 2009, 01:24:03 pm »

From April's Bay 12 report:

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March Donations:     $2997.46 and 50 billion dollars in expired bank notes from Zimbabwe
February Donations:  $1428.62
January Donations:   $2099.48
December Donations:  $5279.49
November Donations:  $1305.10


Those of you who don't get the joke, Zimbabwe currently has 'hyper-inflation." If you know history, think Wiemar Republic. Inflation in the billions of percent.

Example: Zimbabwe is currently printing trillion dollar notes!!

Discuss.
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ToonyMan

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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2009, 01:28:18 pm »

HILAROUS.  Ahhh.  I thought it was a member from Bay12.    8)
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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2009, 03:53:16 pm »

I wonder who sent that....
*Hides money collection*
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JoshuaFH

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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2009, 04:08:43 pm »

How the heck does inflation get that bad?
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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2009, 04:12:07 pm »

Why don't they do what Turkey did? Remake the entire currency.
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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2009, 05:42:52 pm »

Why don't they do what Turkey did? Remake the entire currency.

They did. It's still got retarded inflation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_dollar#Fourth_dollar_3

Basically, they shaved TWELVE zeroes off the end.
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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2009, 06:03:47 pm »

How the heck does inflation get that bad?

I believe Germany did it by printing new money to pay off their war debts.
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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2009, 07:38:22 pm »

Apparently even Zimbabwe can't beat Hungary post WWII for inflation.

Heres some pics I pulled



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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2009, 07:53:50 pm »

How the heck does inflation get that bad?

I believe Germany did it by printing new money to pay off their war debts.

Yeah, once the government starts printing its own money to pay off debts, the value of the currency plummets. It's essentially a downward spiral from there..   money is worth even less, so the government has to print even more, which makes the money worth even less, so they have to print more, etc, etc.

I remember reading about Germany's hyper inflation in high school..   workers would go and buy as much food as they could once they got their pay check. If they didn't, the money they earned that day would be basically worthless by the next day.
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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2009, 08:08:13 pm »

Bloody hell, that money looks just... rubbish.
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Re: Hyper Inflation is fun!
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2009, 08:16:04 pm »

But it's $10,000,000!!   ;D
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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2009, 09:29:15 pm »

Yep, unbacked (or fiat) currency causes lots of problems for economies when it isn't balanced correctly.

That is, of course, the root of our current economic crisis. Just put everyone back on the silver standard!
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2009, 09:49:13 pm »

hah actually,

zimbabwea has ruined several currencies.
wikipedia has alot of information.

the inflation rate rose to 48%  in 1991
to over 100% in 2001
600% in 2003
and then increased on an exponential curve to 231,000,000% in 2008

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The Sydney Morning Herald reported that inflation was likely to be two million percent in May 2008 and ten to fifteen million percent in June 2008, according to John Robertson, a respected Zimbabwean economist.[44] Robertson estimated inflation in July 2008 to be forty to fifty million percent.[44] Inflation can only be estimated because of the impossibility of following the cost of individual goods.[44]
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hell, log(zimbabwe inflation) probably graphs some freakish unnatural bacterial growth curve.


if you need a really fast rising curve for some reason, don't use x^x^x^x,
just use zimbabwae inflation rates, you'll get to infinity faster.

greater than zimbabwae's inflation rate is now a huge observation (good or bad? You're ambigious!).


with those jokes done, I feel sorry for people who's currency looses 4/5 of it's value every minute.
231,000,000% est inflation doesn't appear to be a joke, except the only joke ever told in zimbabwe.
all day every day.
with feeling.


It takes a truly hopeless government to never raise taxes.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2009, 09:51:48 pm »

Are you saying we should raise taxes eerr?
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2009, 11:25:30 pm »

Taxes arent the problem, new debt is the problem.  Raise all the taxes you want, spending will just increase to make it as if you never raised taxes.  Hell...we pay more right now just in interest on the national debt than we receive in ALL of our income tax revenues.  Thats right, if we had never gone into debt, we could do away with income tax. 

You have to take away the power to print money out of buttholes.  If you give ANY human being or group of human beings the power to PRINT MONEY OUT OF THEIR ASS the results can NEVER be good.

Fiat currency always fails.  Name one that hasnt.  And dont try to name a modern currency, because I think all modern currencies have already proven to be failures.  (actually every currency proves to be a failure given enough time)



Heres Americas inflation since 1900.  Gee....what happened in the 60s/70s that caused such a big jump?  Hmmmm....it couldnt be Nixon removing the dollar from the gold standard could it?  I mean, I know a lot of economists said inflation would soar if we did that, but they were all proven wrong of course.  Nixon was a smart man and TOTALLY trustworthy to do the right thing for America.  Nope....the Federal Reserve says inflation is low.  2-3% for the past 25 years or so.  Hmmmmmm.....unfortunately even 2% a year means the money halves in value every 35 years.  And thats if youre stupid enough to trust the damn Federal Reserve Mafioso and their numbers.  The government always calculates inflation without food or energy, which are the two MAIN things people purchase and are the MOST susceptible to inflation.  Reporting inflation without food or energy is basically reporting inflation without reporting inflation. 

But gold standards and silver standards arent a cure all.  Remember, those economies can be destabilized by too much gold/silver.  For example, Spain, during the height of their empire was on the gold standard.  When they discovered massive amounts of gold in America, they mined every bit they could get out of the ground and put it in circulation.  The effect was a rise in prices, just as if you had printed too many dollar bills.

And thus this is the secret of currency management.  It doesnt *really* matter in reality if youre backed by gold or by nothing, the truth is, you CANT grow ANY economy too fast or it will be inflationary.  How wise is it to go to Vegas and try to double down on red?  You cant get rich quick without taking massive risk.  For some strange reason I dont think the economy that 300 million people depend on should be taking on massive risk.
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