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[Luke_Prowler]

I know that Climbing will be put in, as well as multible tile monsters, so what if it was possible to climb enemies Shadow of the Colossus style?

And yes, someone already beat me to it, but that topic died a year ago.

[bjlong]

Needs multi-tile creatures, first. Also, I doubt it'd be very effective.

That said, a good idea.

[zchris13]

Then, we can use rope ladders to hang off of their arms, and build stuff on them. Woopee.

[Warlord255]

Needs multi-tile creatures, first. Also, I doubt it'd be very effective.

That said, a good idea.

Not necessarily.

If we make size "accurate", then you are only able to attack certain parts of a creature at melee range unless you climb on it.

Example: a 100-foot tall Bronze Colossus. You cannot strike it in the head at ground level, but you can strike its legs, and its hands when it reaches down to attack.

[Vattic]

Example: a 100-foot tall Bronze Colossus. You cannot strike it in the head at ground level, but you can strike its legs, and its hands when it reaches down to attack.

Surely you know its just a matter of removing the nail from their ankle?

On topic though, climbable creatures makes sense, remember the hobbits climbing treebeard? Would be amusing if you did so in game and the tree ate you.

I didn't know Toady was going to add multitile creatures, has he said as much?

[Neonivek]

I didn't know Toady was going to add multitile creatures, has he said as much?

I don't think he commented much on Multitile creatures other then explaining the code limitations of such.

I wouldn't really expect too much since he has only seemed to refer to it when speaking of sieges.

[bjlong]

I meant in a combat sense. The creature could really just flick you off.

That said, I'm sure there's a use for it.

[Aspgren]

Creatures have to be multi-tiled for this to work? ... yeah probably. walls are 2 tiles so I don't see why creatures couldn't be.
I ... don't really see what they'd be for though. A troll climbs a troll who climbs a troll who climbs a troll and suddenly goblins pour out from the central shaft?

[Neonivek]

I meant in a combat sense. The creature could really just flick you off.

That said, I'm sure there's a use for it.

No Nothing that I am aware of. It likely won't ever happen appart from Wagons, boats, and similar.

[Tormy]

I didn't know Toady was going to add multitile creatures, has he said as much?

I don't think he commented much on Multitile creatures other then explaining the code limitations of such.

I wouldn't really expect too much since he has only seemed to refer to it when speaking of sieges.

Yeah. I've done a search.


http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=5801.msg73147#msg73147
Aside from display, the main issue for me and multi-tile creatures is path-finding.  It's more annoying to move large blocks around on the grid, and it might not be very clear to a player during adventure mode when they are allowed to move if there's a lot of overlap in that numeric system.  Just moving into empty squares is much easier to think about.

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=21498.msg384144#msg384144
I'm pretty comfortable with not specifying square sizes.  It's a ginormous mess to get into that.  At the same time, some of the plans will require steps in that direction, such as large item piles (so you could have a giant skull mound to slide down in adv mode for instance) and multi-tile trees to hop around on.

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=1788.msg28203#msg28203
It's not the same effort; it's a great deal more effort.  Just having a chase routine isn't sufficient -- if the multi-tile creature chases something and manages to get around a corner, it'll then be stuck or have some very rudimentary routines to try to get out, which would be anticlimactic.  I prefer the large creatures to have brains (or at least potential brains) than extra tiles.  The main issue is path finding and how it currently handles it via connected component numberings, which really only work perfectly for creatures that move like dwarves now.  Other creatures currently work mostly okay with them, but multi-tile creatures wouldn't work at all.  I don't think it would be impossible to change this, but I don't have and have not seen any feasible ideas for handling the issue.

[Puck]

This reminds me of the story of the ants that are attacking an elephant.

The elephant just shakes em off easily, but one is holding on tight to the throat of the big beast.

The ants on the floor stare at their brave brother in awe(yea, in reality it's a sister, actually) and scream "CHOKE HIM, CARL, CHOKE HIM!"

[Vattic]

Tormy I wont quote your post but this is a reply to you; That sucks, I know he said its not impossible and but its something I'd like to see in game, multitile creatures I mean, Ivan has some multitile creatures but I haven't got far into it yet and haven't found any moving ones.

Good job finding the official line on this one.

[mendonca]

To me the obvious extension of this is a pair of Goblins using each other to spring over walls?

[Tormy]

Tormy I wont quote your post but this is a reply to you; That sucks, I know he said its not impossible and but its something I'd like to see in game, multitile creatures I mean, Ivan has some multitile creatures but I haven't got far into it yet and haven't found any moving ones.

Good job finding the official line on this one.

Yeah, I am with you mate. I would like to see multi-tile creatures to get implemented also. Let's hope that Toady will be able to code it in eventually.. 

[Anticheese]

Why do people in the forums have an obsession bordering on the fetishistic about making DF more like other games or Lord of the Rings other fantasy sources? If you want to play Shadow of the Colossus, then play Shadow of the Colossus.