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[yooree]

Hey guys,

I'm wondering how I could start a war with my elf neighbors. They're housing is in the same area as mine. I can see them all over my Southern border and want to pick a fight. I'm just not sure how to go about it.

Any ideas?

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

Kill their traders.
or agree to the wood quota and stockpiles wood.

[yooree]

I'm not sure how to get my squads to attack a race that isn't hostile to me. How do I force say my axedwarf to take a swing at their traders?

[Jackrabbit]

You can't. Be creative, via bridges, water, hostile animals...

[yooree]

Gotcha. What I've tried so far is to single out an elf, surround him with channels, then build a catapult in front of him. My legendary siege operator flings rocks at him, but they go right through/around him.

I'll try drowning that same elf.

[Jackrabbit]

Good idea. But catapults have an arc, even though you can't see it. Try a ballista arrow and if that doesn't work, magma cannot fail.

[Albedo]

Magma - the duct tape of DF.

[Jackrabbit]

Magma - the duct tape of DF.

If duct tape burned everything in its path, inspired Da Vinci like ingenuity and God like destruction.

[Thadeus Rains]

I've always done it by chopping down as many trees as I can. Also, can't you cause them to attack if you seize their goods so many times? I always seize two or three things from them, but I've yet to be attacked because of it. I thought I read somewhere that eventually they will though?

[Jackrabbit]

Loot entire caravans

[Footkerchief]

Attacking/looting caravans won't provoke anything.  I believe you have to kill a diplomat (or otherwise let the diplomat die on your map).  That's hard to do with elves though, because unlike humans they don't send a diplomat every year.  So yeah, cut down lots of trees and wait til their environmental activist shows up, then drop him into the moat while he's crossing a bridge or whatever.

[snelg]

This was a couple of weeks ago now, But I had a diplomat following my miner/mayor/trader person who channeled out the new magma channels. Apparently dwarves doesn't check if there's neutral units where they channel, and the diplomat went into the magma. I had three sieges before the first one was over... Oh, since there were sieges it must've been the human diplomat or something... but it should work with elves too I think.

[Hague]

Elves don't siege. They send ambush parties. There's a tag you can give them to make them siege though.

[Dakk]

Since elves don't bring a liason, i guess the only sure way to piss'em off is cuttings AND stockpiling +100 wood logs. After that they'll send their version of greenpeace to warn you, THEN they start attacking.