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inaluct

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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2009, 12:09:40 am »
I usually don't even have a main shaft. My fortress is a jumbled collection of storage rooms and cramped little hollows with workshops in them.
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2009, 09:58:37 am »
Quote from: Andir on March 27, 2009, 07:03:19 pm
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It seems to me that
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takes only 2 Zlevels per cycle, and is thus easier to designate without confusing yourself.

Thinking even more yields
 
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which has the wagon going in a circular path(should be slightly faster than the multiple switchbacks) and requires even less digging(though you have to offset your dig by 3 every other layer)
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2009, 02:36:01 pm »
I never said mine was efficient.  :D
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Quote from: Sergius on September 27, 2009, 02:08:49 pm
"Having faith" that the bridge will not fall, implies that the bridge itself isn't that trustworthy. It's not that different from "I pray that the bridge will hold my weight."

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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2009, 05:12:50 pm »
 Ah, thanks guys. Now I just need to make sure my designations never interfere with the magma pipe and I'll be golden. There will be gratuitous use of up/down stairs from within the workshop and stockpile rooms, but this shaft will be the backbone of it all.
 Also, when I make an awesome tower this shall be used to make sure my Depot is on the bottom of another tower. A tower sealed from the outside except for a bridge on the top level that connects it to another tower.
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2009, 05:19:22 pm »
You should totally have at least one spire that points downwards, contains most of your open-air portions, and never makes direct ground contact.  Support it entirely by skybridges between the other towers, even during construction.

(Easier than it sounds, actually.)
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2009, 05:38:07 pm »
Make sure not to use actual Bridges.  Unless you really enjoy fun.
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2009, 11:27:02 pm »
How do you build downwards? I can't seem to find a constructed means of descending a Z-level, or do you need to start on the bottom floor?

I can't help but think that for deep forts you could do something more efficient with multiple paths

This is a hopelessly rough draft but...
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I don't know precisely what a wagon needs to turn, but something close to this should work...
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2009, 12:07:18 am »
Personally I like ramps; they just seem cooler than stairs. Once or twice I've drawn up plans for forts with a centralized spiral of access ramps for maximum efficiency and coolness, but I'm lazy so mostly I just end up with something like this and call it good enough.
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2009, 12:16:18 am »
You can't build stairs, or anything else for that matter, downward. There's the problem of trying to build a staircase using stone blocks over a pit, which seems infeasible, if not impossible.

Toady is thinking about a solution for this in the next version, though, for all the underground features. A solution, like, a rope ladder, maybe.
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2009, 12:24:50 am »
I just do a boring old 3x3 up/down staircase all the way to the bottom.

The danger of a dwarf falling is highly overrated - I don't think I've ever had it happen and I play alot.
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2009, 03:13:32 am »
Quote from: BurnedToast on March 29, 2009, 12:24:50 am
I just do a boring old 3x3 up/down staircase all the way to the bottom.

The danger of a dwarf falling is highly overrated - I don't think I've ever had it happen and I play alot.
I've never had it happen either, but I don't normally have one "main shaft" from top to bottom.  I do create "silos" for housing, warehousing, and office/workshops with stairs from top to bottom in the core.
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Quote from: Sergius on September 27, 2009, 02:08:49 pm
"Having faith" that the bridge will not fall, implies that the bridge itself isn't that trustworthy. It's not that different from "I pray that the bridge will hold my weight."

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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2009, 07:59:32 am »
Nowadays, my stairwells are like this:

X+X
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X+X

This allows for dwarves to walk across the stairwell without bumping into those moving up/down it.
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Re: Main shaft designs
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2009, 09:20:59 pm »
I finally got around to setting up autohotkey to do my main shaft for me. I'm thinking about making a script for my housing now too.
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