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[Org]

Ahh.

I hate how the Guard have better vehicles.
I mean, the Predators and Land Raiders are good, but expensive, and bot as versatile as a Leman Russ.

[Servant Corps]

Aren't the Space Marines and the Imperial Guard (usually) on the same side?

Don't you want overpowered Imperial Guard, to help lessen the pressure the SM has?

[Org]

Well, i am talking about if I go against someone with IG.

But in Apocalypse, I will get some.
Can I use earlier codex units?
I want to either use Gaunt's Ghosts, or Valhallan Ice Warriors(and Commissar Cain  ).

[Aqizzar]

I don't know if you trying to use outdated books makes you the cheesebeard, or if me insisting that you can't makes me the cheesebeard.

Anyway, you have nothing to complain about.  Marines have Toughness 4, 3+ armor, and a gun that ignores flak armor.  If it was one on one fights, a squad of Marines could mow through every Guardsman in the universe.  You have adequate vehicles and kickass troops.  I have good vehicles and ablative meat armor for them.

On that note, most of the Guard's vehicles are more expensive now, as are their upgrades.

[Org]

Yeah...

Also, the Hydra is in I hear.
Basically a double autocannon.
Although its not as good as it is in Apoc.

[Aqizzar]

Nope.  It used to be a double Autocannon, or twin-linked.  But contrary to the old designs and even the look of the model, the Hydra has an ordinary Autocannon, it's just double ranged.  However, it ignores the special defenses skimmers and bikes get at high speed.  So it's only really useful against skimmers, bikes, and flyers, instead of a cheap infantry destroyer like it used to be.

[Org]

Hm...

Okay, sorry. Got it confused with a Ork Flakka Dakka Cannon

[sonerohi]

Wait, why would you get sued Aqizzar? Are they that stingy that they don't even want you to know how to play the game til you buy it?

[Org]

The codex, the New unreleased rulebook for a faction, was leaked.

Meaning, they dont want you to see whats in it til its out.

Which is why he doesnt want to be sued.

[Org]

ALSO MOAR NEW STUFF:
This year
Warhammer stuff I dont care about
Planetary Assault:Sounds cool.
New Figures:There was one picture, it was Vulkan He'stan.
SPACE HULK:Remade!
Redoing of a Special SM Chapter Codex

Next Year
Tyranids and Maybe Blood Angels
Dark Eldar is a possibility

[Aqizzar]

Actually, I'd be worried about being sued because, beyond other reasons, GW has a history of getting raging mad over people posting indepth content online.  Basically copyright infringement.  I wasn't being vague because I'm lazy, not just anyway.

I'll bet the revised special-marine book is for Space Wolves.  I love that consideration of the nids and Blood Angels comes before the Dark Eldar, who will by then be 12 years without a codex.  Also, I seem to remember hearing something about a codex for combined Chaos stuff - old fashioned demons in CSM armies, Lost and Damned, etc.  But thinking about it, there's a lot of weird units in the new Guard book that I can't help but think were made with an eye to representing Traitor Guard.

[Gunner-Chan]

Actually, I'd be worried about being sued because, beyond other reasons, GW has a history of getting raging mad over people posting indepth content online.  Basically copyright infringement.  I wasn't being vague because I'm lazy, not just anyway.

Exactly what I have been trying to tell Org when he was posting statblocks, you just... Don't.

And if that codex is a Space wolves one I am going to tear my left eye out and EAT IT. Goddamn wolves.

[Org]

Yeah...except you didn't.
And I really havent. Only things I have heard. Not entire stats either.

[Aqizzar]

I'll post one more bit of info, to ask why some units get a specific firing range at all.  That Imperial cruise missile I mentioned?  It has a minimum range of 12", which is less than some of the artillery pieces.  The model rocket will probably be more than 12" long, if the art is any indication, so it would basically be splatting into the ground before clearing the launcher.

It has the longest maximum range I've ever seen, 960".  That's 80 feet, in case you're playing an Apocalypse game with someone at the other end of the block.

[Org]

 
WHAT.