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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2009, 03:08:37 pm »

Now I am imagining some very flat dwarves and very flat animals
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2009, 03:16:17 pm »

Hah.
We gotta keep in mind that since a kitten and a bronze colossus take up the same number of squares, so we can't really measure the width/length of a square, except against itself, as someone said.
As i recall, Toady is planning on implementing multi-tiled creatures as some point, in addition to wagons (yes, they are creatures, check your units list :P).
Until then, make it as big or small as you want. Personally, i'd go from bottom Z-level to top :D
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2009, 07:53:13 pm »

I've always imagined the z-level as 1.5 times a normal dwarf's height.

Then I realized...

How tall are the dwarves, anyway? :P
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2009, 08:33:05 pm »

Humans are size 7. Dwarves are size 6. So, around chest height or so. It's in line with the LoTR depiction of dwarves, I think.
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2009, 09:18:58 pm »

1 z-level is as tall as a support, and you can see them in their entirety, and you can only have 1 per tile. Tiles are defined just fine, it is all the other entities that are infinitely small...
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2009, 09:35:22 pm »

it's 10◙ high
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2009, 09:57:52 am »

IIRC someone a while back made some math based on water and whatnot and got 1 z-levels height to 2.5 foot or something like that..

It was PTTG. This is the topic what you've been thinking about.  :)
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2009, 11:07:39 am »

I would think the easiest calculation would be based on water, but not all that complex stuff with water consumption (He forgot to add in evaporation of water over a month long period :P )

Basically, a dwarf can still wade at 4/7 depth, and an elf can wade at 6/7 depth.  If his calculation is correct, that means dwarfs are over 10 feet tall, which would throw off his water calculation in the first place.  Also elves would be over 15 feet tall.

So, lets say a dwarf is a bit over 4 feet tall, and an elf is a bit over 6 feet tall on average (Both reasonable numbers I think) then each 1 depth of water would be 1 foot, so each z level is roughly 7 feet.

Simple and easy.  Thus for the 60 foot high pillars, you'd need 8-9 z levels.

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Actually looking at that other post again, it says that tiles are 2.5 feet wide, and each 1/7 of water is about 11 inches or so, which sounds about right to me.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2009, 03:44:48 pm by Karadan »
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2009, 10:45:01 pm »

But all creatures can wade at no more than 4/7. Therefore they're all the same size.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2009, 12:07:41 am »

wait how does that work, are you going to build that up and but leave the stairs at the bottom?
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Re: How tall is a Z-level
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2009, 02:41:44 pm »

IIRC someone a while back made some math based on water and whatnot and got 1 z-levels height to 2.5 foot or something like that..

I knew dwarfs were short but...
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