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[SolarShado]

Not sure what i'd do, given the chance... I don't think i'd have any qualms killing total strangers, and there are a few people i know that i wouldn't mind beating severely (not sure if i could actually kill them tho).

Don't mess with my family/friends tho, or you will have it come back on you, in at least an equal amount, probably a much greater amount.

Not sure about the soul thing...

but hitting people? no problem. i have had to stop myself from doing it at times. i have a short fuse anger-wise.

[Yaaga]

Rule #1 of my life: Don't PO me, I will F u up. Depending on who you are, who is watching, what you've done, and what I have available, you will limp away, or bleed out...

About the satan thing: I would give my soul to the devil if he would give himself up to god, and when the deal was struck, he would no longer want my soul after he was god's pawn. I would be rewarded richly in heaven. (None of you could come up with better than this, you know it)

[Osmosis Jones]

Everyone has a price. For anything. That price may be fiscal, it may be psychological, or it may be physiological, but it is there.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

If that is too subtle to get my point across, remember that stopping torture, or not executing everyone on earth in a horrific manner, can be considered a price.

[Armok]

I assumed that "devil" and "soul" were a metaphor/hypothetical fictional scenario. I'm atheist. (well, one could TECHNICALLY call me some kind of agnostic, I estimate the probability of there being some kind of god to be along the lines of 1/gogolplex, and thus negligible)
In a ridiculous hypothetical scenario of finding unmistakable evidence and theist mythology turning out to be true, I'd be more likely to be on the devil or equivalent, on the grounds that anything that would create a shitty world like this one does not care one iota about morals or ethics, or is enormously incompetent.

[LegoLord]

Urgh . . . that argument . . . it's very poor in the face of  religions involving free will.  There's a reason a lot of religions talk about "free will."  It's the idea that God or the gods or whatever left people to make their own decisions for better or worse.  Sure, an all-mighty being could fix everything, but only by making us his/their/its robots; doing anything and everything he says regardless of our own thoughts.  I mean, come on, if we didn't have free will and there was a God, we'd all believe in him, because that's what he would want, isn't it?  There wouldn't be atheists.

Sorry, but religions normally have a lot in them explaining why their deity doesn't just make the world a better place (free will first and foremost among them), and it bothers me when people ignore those.

Not saying that any one religion (including atheism) is right or wrong, just that there are far better reasons to be atheist.[/rant]

Now, of course everyone has a price, but some people (like me) require, metaphorically speaking, a giant banner with a voice box screaming its message, which reads something along the lines of "YOU IDIOT YOU'LL KILL US ALL IF YOU DON'T DO THAT!  WHO CARES IF IT HURTS ONE GUY?!"

[Gunner-Chan]

Urgh . . . that argument . . . it's very poor in the face of  religions involving free will.  There's a reason a lot of religions talk about "free will."  It's the idea that God or the gods or whatever left people to make their own decisions for better or worse.  Sure, an all-mighty being could fix everything, but only by making us his/their/its robots; doing anything and everything he says regardless of our own thoughts.  I mean, come on, if we didn't have free will and there was a God, we'd all believe in him, because that's what he would want, isn't it?  There wouldn't be atheists.

Sorry, but religions normally have a lot in them explaining why their deity doesn't just make the world a better place (free will first and foremost among them), and it bothers me when people ignore those.

Not saying that any one religion (including atheism) is right or wrong, just that there are far better reasons to be atheist.[/rant]

Now, of course everyone has a price, but some people (like me) require, metaphorically speaking, a giant banner with a voice box screaming its message, which reads something along the lines of "YOU IDIOT YOU'LL KILL US ALL IF YOU DON'T DO THAT!  WHO CARES IF IT HURTS ONE GUY?!"

I was wondering how long it would take for someonne to say that.

Yeah, the "whaa whaa god did this to me boo hoo!" Argument is retarded, pure and simple.

[LegoLord]

Especially when it comes from people who are (at least raised as) Christians.

Evil.  Back to that.  Trying not to derail here. 

I have to agree with Yaaga about the devil, although I'm not sure I'd get some valuable reward.  In fact, I might get some punishment.  But it would be a sacrifice for the greater good, for, if worded properly, the deal would make that jerk Big D stop leading people astray.

[Armok]

((I know those arguments uite well, I just think that they don't hold, someone that is even 100 could figure out a way around those problems, heck I can figure out a way around them, and I'm only maybe 2-3 times as smart. Now lets stop this argument, so dont respond to this post.))

[Cheeetar]

To the original post there is NOTHING I wouldn't do if it would increase my lifespan. So I would be willing to commit mass genocide for a few seconds extra life even if they were full of excruciating pain. This also applies to doing things to myself too though, if you offered me an extra year of life if I ate my own penis I would have swallowed it by the time you finished your sentence.

If you jump off a cliff and remain crippled for the rest of your life, I will give you an extra year. Deal?

[Jude]

All of us are already killing people by living an extravagant lifestyle while people are starving on other parts of the planet. The price of our souls is computers and cars and fast food.

[Cheeetar]

All of us are already killing people by living an extravagant lifestyle while people are starving on other parts of the planet. The price of our souls is computers and cars and fast food.

Preach it!

[umiman]

Jude: By your logic, all of us are at the same time helping people by living an extravagant lifestyle while other people are able to enjoy life on other parts of the planet.

[Jreengus]

To the original post there is NOTHING I wouldn't do if it would increase my lifespan. So I would be willing to commit mass genocide for a few seconds extra life even if they were full of excruciating pain. This also applies to doing things to myself too though, if you offered me an extra year of life if I ate my own penis I would have swallowed it by the time you finished your sentence.

If you jump off a cliff and remain crippled for the rest of your life, I will give you an extra year. Deal?

Deal! Of course first I want proof you can actually do that...

[LegoLord]

All of us are already killing people by living an extravagant lifestyle while people are starving on other parts of the planet. The price of our souls is computers and cars and fast food.

Preach it!

Not if you're doing something to help those people (I hardly ever even eat fast food).

[Fishersalwaysdie]

Well, wouldn't make any deal with the devil, my soul or otherwise...

I just found this interesting moral puzzle, and I though someone might like it here.

A man (M) and a lady (L) who are very much in love and devoted to one another, are separated by a river with no way of getting across to the other side. On L's side of the river, there is a boatman (B) who is able to take her over to the other side of the river but refuses to do so unless she pays him $20, twice his normal fare. L has no money. Another man (S) then tells L that he will giver her $20 if she sleeps with him. L agrees to do so and on receiving the $20, pays B who takes her over to the other side of the river. She is reunited with M and they are very happy together. However, a friend of M (F) finds out what L did with S and immediately tells M. On learning the news, M finds L and ends things with her, stating that he wants nothing more to do with her. Your task is to rank these five people, M, L, B, S, and F, from best person to worst person.

I'd rank them as B-L-F-M-S
Technically, B is guilty of avarice, yet his actions weren't really harmful in any way and neither could they.

L is not really guilty of anything, but were she a person of superhuman moral strenght she would have stayed on the side of the river, I don't know if B possesses this strenght, as he didn't succumb to any presure(he is the initiator), so he might be a better person(or might not).

F is a honest person, the consequences of this trait of his are devastating, but he acted impulsevly, he couldn't hide this information from his friend.

M's pride overcomes his love for L, not sure if he's better than S.

S not only can't control his lust, he tempts L and causes moral failings of everyone except B.
So L&B-F-S&M