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Solifuge

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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #225 on: April 10, 2009, 04:53:10 am »

Okay, We can guarantee 3 Dwarves now:
1) Archangel, the Hammerer, based on an irrefutable GM post.
2) A_Fey_Dwarf, Freindly, based on the only concievable way that there was a tie between Org and Flintus when Org got only 1 vote, and Flintus got 2. Could be Elf or Dwarf.
3) Org, a Dwarf, because he showed up as Anti-Town false, aside from which the Sly Elf is already pinned.

I'm sorry I don't have anything better to offer you Archangel, but those 3 are guaranteed safe.

I know only one other to be a confirmed dwarf, and I would very much appreciate a guard tonight.  Preferably all of them.

I would not advise that a guard, if we even have one anymore, guards anyone but the Hammerer today, as he is the only remaining power-noble left if I get lynched today.


UPDATED Annotated Notes, Votes, Actions, and Results:
(Including all actions taken and statements made, in chronological order)

Key:
TF = Made a True/False Testable Statement
FoS = Somehow cast suspicion on another


Day 1: (17 Players)
inaluct          [TF] (FoS Pandarsenic for Joke TF 2x) Lynch Pandarsenic, No Lynch
Squeegy          <Inactive>
Mephansteras     [TF] No Lynch
Cheeetar         [TF]
Karlito          [TF] No Lynch
A_Fey_Dwarf      [TF] No Lynch
Alexhans         [Joke TF (not testable)], No Lynch, Lynch Pandarsenic, No Lynch
penguinofhonor   [TF] No Lynch
Org              [TF] No Lynch
Flintus10        [TF] No Lynch
Archangel        [TF] No Lynch
Pandarsenic      [Joke TF (not testable)], Very Defensive
Solifuge         [TF] No Lynch
Zaithemaster     [TF] No Lynch (FoS Pandarsenic)
qwertyuiopas     [TF] No Lynch, Supporting Statement
LASD             [TF] Lynch Squeegy
chaoticjosh      No Lynch, Lynch Pandarsenic, No Lynch

Vote Result: No Lynch

Night 1:
Squeegy, Ambusher, killed (by Hammerer?)
Inaluct, Peasant, killed (by Elf?)



Day 2: (15 Players)
Mephansteras     [TF] FoS to Bandwagon on ChaoticJosh
Cheeetar         [TF] Lynch ChaoticJosh
Karlito          [TF] Lynch ChaoticJosh
A_Fey_Dwarf      [TF] <No Vote>
Alexhans         [TF] FoS Cheetar/Solifuge, Lynch Cheetar
penguinofhonor   [TF] <No Vote>
Org              [TF] Role-Claim ("not a good role")
Flintus10        <inactive>
Archangel        <inactive>
Pandarsenic      [TF] Was ignorant of Sly Elf. Invents Test-Phrase.
Solifuge         [TF] Lynch ChaoticJosh, No Lynch
Zaithemaster     [TF] <No Vote>
qwertyuiopas     <inactive>
LASD             [TF] Role-Claim (Woodcutter), Lynch ChaoticJosh
chaoticjosh      [TF] Role-Claim (Woodcutter)

Proven Roles:
* Dead: inaluct (Peasant), Squeegy (Ambusher)

Vote Result: Lynch ChaoticJosh (Woodcutter)

Night 2:
Cheetar Royal Guard and Lover, killed by Woodcutter's Axe (by Hammerer + Elf?)



Day 3: (13 Players)
Mephansteras     
Karlito          [TF]
A_Fey_Dwarf      [TF] Lynch Org (His vote counted 2x, so he is without doubt the Friendly Dwarf/Elf)
Alexhans         Role-Claim (Non-Specific), Claims Child contact.
penguinofhonor   [TF]
Org              Role-claim (Ambusher?), FoS Alexhans ("Tracked Cheetar going to Alexhans last night"), ALL CAPS, Lynch Alexhans, No Lynch, Lynch Flintus10
Flintus10        [TF]
Archangel        Role-claim (Hammerer)
Pandarsenic      [TF]
Solifuge         [TF] Created Chart for Day 1-3
Zaithemaster     [TF] Lynch Org, No Lynch, Lynch Flintus10
qwertyuiopas     [TF] No Lynch
LASD     

Proven Roles:
* Living Roles: Archangel (Hammerer)       
* Dead Roles: inaluct (Peasant), Squeegy (Ambusher), ChaoticJosh (Woodcutter), Cheetar (Royal Guard, Lover)

Vote Result: Tie for Flintus10/Org

Night 3:
Alexhans, Sheriff, killed by elves.
LASD, Woodcrafter and Lover, committed suicide over the death of Cheetar.



Day 4: (11 Players)
Mephansteras     Lynch Solifuge, No Lynch
Karlito          Role-Claim (Child), Lynch Solifuge
A_Fey_Dwarf     
penguinofhonor   
Org              Lynch Karlito
Flintus10       
Archangel        Lynch Solifuge, No Lynch
Pandarsenic      [TF] Lynch Karlito
Solifuge         Role-claim (Child), Lynch Karlito, "Org, Archangel, and A_Fey_Dwarf are guaranteed roles"
Zaithemaster     
qwertyuiopas     

Proven Roles:
* Living Roles: Archangel (Hammerer), A_Fey_Dwarf (Friendly Elf/Dwarf)
* Dead Roles: inaluct (Peasant), Squeegy (Ambusher), ChaoticJosh (Woodcutter), Cheetar (Royal Guard, Lover), Alexhans (Sheriff), LASD (Woodcutter)
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 02:02:36 pm by Solifuge »
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Archangel

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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #226 on: April 10, 2009, 05:06:57 am »

As I understand the rules, if a guard targets me, he dies.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #227 on: April 10, 2009, 05:16:23 am »

And pointing out who the Friendly Dwarf is isn't a good move if you're right.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #228 on: April 10, 2009, 05:17:33 am »

Webadict, does "Targeting the Hammerer" include Guards then? If so, then obviously guarding the Hammerer would be a bad idea.

Anyway, by the end of the day, assuming either Karlito or I get lynched, everyone will know who the real Child is, and so long as they are still living, the Guards can protect them from Elf retaliation, and Archangel can dole out punishment with much better chances of nailing a real Elf.

If I'm dead, though, the guard can always protect another confirmed Dwarf, like A_Fey_Dwarf, who gives us better chances in lynch votes, etc.

EDIT: Archangel, him being the Friendly Dwarf is 100% certain, and anyone could have deduced it without special knowledge based on what happened during yesterday's vote. Keeping info from other Dwarves is a primary way we will end up killing one another. The more confirmed Dwarves we have, the better chances we have of nailing an Elf. Besides, if I die today, any guards can protect him.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 05:24:27 am by Solifuge »
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #229 on: April 10, 2009, 07:00:51 am »

Vote Karlito. I'm sold, I suppose, on Solifuge's claims. Mainly because of Karlito's anti-CJ bandwagon after my elfproof method.

I'd also like to claim an almost-certain Dwarfhood since I invented the TF Test Phrase we used to neutralize the Sly Elf / Woodcrafter problem.

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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #230 on: April 10, 2009, 07:40:43 am »

wAIT.

nEVER MIND.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 08:48:22 am by Org »
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #231 on: April 10, 2009, 08:53:10 am »

Solifuge might be the child.
Not sure. But its best to not vote.
.....
Who is the doctor.
I am willing to bet on who it is.

Zaith.
You are either a Guard, Doctor, Tracker, or Elf.
REVEAL YOUESELF.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 08:58:33 am by Org »
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #232 on: April 10, 2009, 09:09:52 am »

*sigh* I need to look things over.

For now, I withdraw my vote.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #233 on: April 10, 2009, 11:08:47 am »

Org, I admit I was really hoping for a bit more trust on your part. >_<

At minimum, can you verify that I did indeed contact you several nights ago, and that I didn't just pull this "I'm the Child" thing out of my arse after Karlito's claim? Unless Karlito has a living contact, that would help immensely in proving my innocence.

In addition, I think we have a more pressing issues to be dealing with, rather than whether Zai is an Elf or not. Leave the witch-hunting until after we've got no investigators left.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 11:11:34 am by Solifuge »
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #234 on: April 10, 2009, 11:13:47 am »

Webadict, does "Targeting the Hammerer" include Guards then? If so, then obviously guarding the Hammerer would be a bad idea.

Anyway, by the end of the day, assuming either Karlito or I get lynched, everyone will know who the real Child is, and so long as they are still living, the Guards can protect them from Elf retaliation, and Archangel can dole out punishment with much better chances of nailing a real Elf.

If I'm dead, though, the guard can always protect another confirmed Dwarf, like A_Fey_Dwarf, who gives us better chances in lynch votes, etc.

EDIT: Archangel, him being the Friendly Dwarf is 100% certain, and anyone could have deduced it without special knowledge based on what happened during yesterday's vote. Keeping info from other Dwarves is a primary way we will end up killing one another. The more confirmed Dwarves we have, the better chances we have of nailing an Elf. Besides, if I die today, any guards can protect him.
Yes, guarding the Hammerer kills the Guard/Doctor. However, if the Elves attack the Hammerer first, the Guard will still live, as well as anybody else that targets the Hammerer, since he only gets one kill per Day/Night (depending on certain situations).

Also, Friendly and Grudged CAN be applied to both Dwarves AND Elves. These are hidden traits on any player, that are never revealed until endgame.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #235 on: April 10, 2009, 11:28:11 am »

Quote from: Webadict (Rules Post)
Friendly – This Dwarf's vote counts for double, because he's a trustworthy person.

I assumed by this that it was Dwarf-only, so thanks for the clarification. A_Fey_Dwarf's info has been adjusted accordingly.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #236 on: April 10, 2009, 11:30:41 am »

Quote from: Webadict (Rules Post)
Friendly – This Dwarf's vote counts for double, because he's a trustworthy person.

I assumed by this that it was Dwarf-only, so thanks for the clarification. A_Fey_Dwarf's info has been adjusted accordingly.
Whoops, my bad. I'll fix that.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #237 on: April 10, 2009, 01:00:12 pm »

As far as I know, nothing Solifuge claims has been true.  He has never contacted me in a pm, and I don't really understand his accusation about me starting a bandwagon against Org.  However, if he was the child (which he's not) why didn't he say so in this pm he sent to Alexhans?
I know you register as not anti-town, and judging by Org's comments, I'm suspecting the Hammerer over Sly Elf, since alternatives don't really make sense as I understand what happened last night.

I have reason to doubt that Org is an elf. He's not playing very intelligently, but he's been in contact with me since day 2. Unless he's been acting the part of "bad player" all this time while secretly being Sly Elf and a master of disguise, he's Ambusher. You can validate this for yourself if his observation was truthful on your night-time target.

Anyway, for now I'm trying to get him off your case via PMs, to hopefully save his ass from this lynch, but he's not cooperating with me yet. I really don't want to lose our ability to track targets... if you can validate his claim of your class, then you know best whether we can trust him or not.

And if you know the child... He can vouch for me...

I'm seriously hoping that was a bluff. If someone contacted you as the child, I hope you didn't let them know your (potential) role... also, if they've been giving you night-time suspects to Hammer, I dare say that would explain the Dwarf targets for the last few nights.

I contacted Alexhans on day 2 after checking that he wasn't an elf.  I hoped that I could convince him to withdraw his vote for Cheeetar.  He checked me out that night, and we've been exchanging information.  I don't really know where you were trying to go with this message, but if you are the child, it doesn't seem like the kind message that you would send to the 'hammerer'.

Also, the child can use his power during the day.  I'm sure one of you can post something clever so that I can prove my self.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #238 on: April 10, 2009, 01:08:06 pm »

Ok, prove yourself to me.

I have a night power role.
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Re: DF Mafia Round 3 (Day 4)
« Reply #239 on: April 10, 2009, 01:17:50 pm »

First of all, you just quoted a PM, and on top of that quoted a PM that wasn't sent to you. I'm assuming Alexhans shared it with you in quote form (which was a bad move on his part) after I sent it, but either way I'm really disappointed by the way some people are playing right now.

Blatant rules infraction that it is aside, yes, I did contact Alexhans after I checked him out, and was seeking his help in getting Org off of Alexhans' case, but why you just quoted that to everyone doesn't make sense to me. At the time of that message, I didn't know what his role was and suspected him to be the Hammerer, but I had no way to be sure yet. I wasn't about to reveal that I was Child to him until afterward, and that he had mentioned "being in contact with the child" already, I could only assume that someone else, who I now understand to be you, Karlito, had already begun spinning that lie around him.

And I did tell Alexhans I was the child after he told me that he was Sheriff... What did you do after that? Did you tell him there were actually two Child roles, or were you trying to turn him against me at that point, and since he was on to your tactic, you and the elves had him killed him last night, or what?

EDIT: Meph, I'm not going to spend what may be my last Lie Scan proving my innocence today only to be elf-killed in the night... If people don't believe me and end up Lynch-voting, I'll use the final Scan I have, but I'm not going to blow it a moment before then.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2009, 01:32:48 pm by Solifuge »
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