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[Servant Corps]

Okay. Let get this started. A possible plan in the future is to create a Feminist Crime Squad that will work with the LCS, but also oppose it.

I think we can agree that the Feminists desire this=

Women's Rights: L+
Abortion: L+

Here are the other laws that exist in the code:
LAW_ANIMALRESEARCH
LAW_POLICEBEHAVIOR
LAW_PRIVACY
LAW_DEATHPENALTY
LAW_NUCLEARPOWER
LAW_POLLUTION
LAW_LABOR
LAW_GAY
LAW_CORPORATE
LAW_FREESPEECH and LAW_FLAGBURNING (both are dependent on Free Speech)
LAW_GUNCONTROL (Technically, gun control is dependent on police behavior and death penatly, but since Joesph Stalin was in favor of L+ Gun Control but also C+ Police Behavior and C+ Death Penatly, I had Gun Control be a seperate issue)

For me to use my template that I used to create the Stalinist Comrade Squad, I need to think of some Arch-Conservative things Feminists would support. This will prevent the LCS from aiding the Feminists too much. Maybe they would be in support of more conservative gun control laws?

[Jonathan S. Fox]

The LCS is a feminist organization.

[Servant Corps]

There ya go. One less faction to mod.

[Little]

They are?

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Who, the LCS are feminists? Yes. Feminism is part of the broad Liberal Agenda.

[Little]

I see.

Cause they stand for abortion and equality?

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Because the LCS supports uncompromising equality. Feminism is a plank in the Liberal platform, and not a political party onto itself.

The LCS ranks are filled with the most radical feminists, socialists, environmentalists, hippies, gays, homeless and unemployed, victims of nuclear accidents, drug users, criminals, and so on and so forth. If the LCS weren't feminist, it wouldn't deserve its own name.

[beorn080]

I think a feminist crime squad would be an ultra feminist crime squad. Men would barely be worthy to carry their shopping, let alone be able to run anything. So Worker Rights would be C+, with workers possibly replaced with men. Police Regs would also be C+, since the superior females must keep the oft erring males in line, with harsh punishments up to the death penalty for such crimes as mixing colors and whites, burnt cooking, and undressing a woman with his eyes. Also Gay Marriage would be banned since the only proper job for a man is serving a woman as her house husband. So C+ Worker Rights, Police, Gay Marriage, and Death Penalty, perhaps C privacy for gossiping. Animal rights should either be C to support testing cosmetics, though not sure if that would be ultra feminin, or L+. Nukes and Pollution would be L+ to ensure healthy babies and women.

[Servant Corps]

I wouldn't call them feminists at all. In fact, I'm pretty worried that might step from satire to needlessly offensive.

Altough I do got a name for them. Amazons.

[Cheeetar]

Gay marriage is for women as well as men.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

The game Liberal Crime Squad exaggerates and stereotypes many things, but always from the perspective of the radical left. Events occur according to the dreams and nightmares of Liberals. If a news anchor accidentally lets a bright Liberal guest finish a sentence, millions of people suddenly realize how dumb cable news is. If genetic research goes unchecked, genetic monsters break out of the labs, rampaging and killing people. The game is extremely biased, to the point of often losing touch with reality, but it is consistent in this bias -- you play as the Liberal Crime Squad, and the game shifts reality to match this. The satire of Conservatism is obvious, but the satire of the radical Left is also there, it is just subtle -- it depends on your realization of your own people's hypocrisy, insanity, and the degree to which the events in the game could not possibly go down according to this fantasy/nightmare (depending on whether things are going good or bad for you).

In this context, there is no room for an evil ultra-feminist faction that would break the satire by introducing a hardcore Conservative anti-feminist stereotype as reality. You could do this more readily to a Conservative faction, but feminism is a Liberal faction, and as such it should be glorified in the game, not demonized. Obviously in brainstorming for a mod, there's no reason it has to adhere to what I think. But if it were up to me, I would veto the inclusion of a "man-hating" faction in the game.

[beorn080]

A feminist movement that demands restitition from the patricarchy for years of service. that seems fairly liberal.

For myself, I've always seen two different types of feminists. There are those like my GF, who want to be treated as equals yet understand that some men want to be gentlemen, and the "evil" feminists, who, when passing through a door being held for her, mutters under her breath "F-ing men". The first group is, to me, liberal, but the other seems to revel in degrading men for no reason. I hate that sort of behavior. If your gonna degrade a man, at least do it in the privacy of your own home. That seems somewhat conservative to me.

Semi off topic, but why do women mistrust a man when he holds the door or pulls out their chair for them? Its frustrating to no end to see gentlemanly behavior dying out, and I am starting to understand why since men seem to get snubbed when tehy try to act like gentlemen.

[Cheeetar]

A feminist movement that demands restitition from the patricarchy for years of service. that seems fairly liberal.

For myself, I've always seen two different types of feminists. There are those like my GF, who want to be treated as equals yet understand that some men want to be gentlemen, and the "evil" feminists, who, when passing through a door being held for her, mutters under her breath "F-ing men". The first group is, to me, liberal, but the other seems to revel in degrading men for no reason. I hate that sort of behavior. If your gonna degrade a man, at least do it in the privacy of your own home. That seems somewhat conservative to me.

Semi off topic, but why do women mistrust a man when he holds the door or pulls out their chair for them? Its frustrating to no end to see gentlemanly behavior dying out, and I am starting to understand why since men seem to get snubbed when tehy try to act like gentlemen.

One isn't really feminism. It is women making a generalisation about men due to earlier experiences. And also women who are just assholes.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Semi off topic, but why do women mistrust a man when he holds the door or pulls out their chair for them? Its frustrating to no end to see gentlemanly behavior dying out, and I am starting to understand why since men seem to get snubbed when tehy try to act like gentlemen.

I am by no means an expert on feminist theory, but I will do my best to answer this question.

Most women (and most feminists) don't feel that way about people pulling out a chair or holding the door. Those that do feel that way do so because these are behaviors that men have carried out as part of a pervading tradition of strict gender roles that has treated women as the more delicate sex and therefore to be given extra courtesies. While this might seem to be better-than-equal treatment to some, others argue it reinforces these traditional gender roles and perceptions of women. Essentially, these practices derive from, maintain, and reinforce subconscious stereotypes. Holding the door is essentially a backhanded insult, suggesting that you have to compensate for her weakness by saving her from having to get the door herself.

As I said however, most women and most feminists don't feel this way; most will consider it simple courtesy. The theory behind this kind of attitude is called radical feminism and it has never gained mainstream traction. It's just that it's been about thirty years since second wave feminism faded away from being a major political movement (after you win, you tend to get on with your life). As a result, a lot of younger people have been disproportionately exposed to a very small number of highly outspoken feminists on the fringe that have created a false perception of feminism as a bitter and radical movement focused on fighting the patriarchy or something. In reality, feminism is a far broader, and far more mainstream ideology that has just been so accepted by modern society as correct that is is largely dormant.

All this refers to the United States. I don't know much about feminism internationally.

[Yanlin]

This behavior comes straight from the stone age. Women were precious. They could make more warriors to go club the other tribe. Women were sacred and guarded.

If you want something you can understand, the Krogan in Mass Effect.