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[Rhenaya]

Hey there i made a little fort to show how to get through double aquifer with Caveins. The Idea is from Ghoulsblade he made me the little shematics:

One Level of Aquifer

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Two Levels of Aquifer

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So i Made a little Fort about this you can see all in DFMA

Intro: http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-4852-steelmarket
just embarked and made two buildings for food and sleeping

Part 1: http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-4853-steelmarket
the first Cavein is ready to go off

Movie Part 1-2: http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-1138-howtoaquifiercavein
pull the lever! i am sry for the real long responding time as you see on my fps, this was really shorter then i did it ^^

Part 2: http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-4854-steelmarket
the aftermath ^^

Part 3: http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-4855-steelmarket
and the second cave in is ready to go off!

Movie Part 3-4: http://mkv25.net/dfma/movie-1139-howtoaquifiercavein2
again some lever action

Part 4: http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-4856-steelmarket
the cave in is done

Final: http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-4857-steelmarket
after the clean up.. stone! dwarven orgasm.. well right after booze

[Lexender]

That's awesome. We definetely need more of these short, clear visual guides that show people how to do things that aren't necessary instinctive.

Great job, and put that on the wiki, it would be lots of use!

[Rhenaya]

already put it into the wiki, just follow the link in my signature :p

[Fossaman]

Very nice. It doesn't look to take up any more space than the freezing method for a two-dry two-wet four soil layer area, either.

[Rhenaya]

2 dry soil layers are prerequisite for this, but then you can break any layer... just make a new ring for every aquifer layer

just like you need a freezing map for the ice method


so i dont think you can compare them with the space it need

[ghoulsblade]

this method is superior to all others due to the boooooom + splash factor   
thanks for making the guide !

[Fossaman]

If a player was prepared to wait for a year or two, the freezing method could be performed on a merely cold map, during the winter. But you're right, they aren't really comparable. I was just thinking in terms of fortress design. I've been fiddling around with Aquiferous Tundra forts and the nano-fortress utility, with the fort built around the aquifer piercing. You can fit the entire fort's worth of stuff in the two dry layers quite easily on a 1x1 map, and only have mining works down below.

[Rhenaya]

That's awesome. We definetely need more of these short, clear visual guides that show people how to do things that aren't necessary instinctive.

Great job, and put that on the wiki, it would be lots of use!

if people make something and then get just little response, people tend to think it was bad, and stop making things :>

[Bromor Neckbeard]

My hat's off to you, Rhenaya, this is clear and understandable.  If I'd had had this visual explanation of the principles of breaching an aquifer when I started playing DF, it would have taken me a lot less time to finally manage building a fort on an aquifer.

[Cheshire Cat]

this is really good. only time i ever tried an aquifer map was on a seaside. i decided to use pumps to get to the stone, and despite my lack of stone mechanisms managed to accidentally created a perpetual motion pumping machine that flooded my entire fortress out. without access to my booze stockpile all my dwarves suddenly started dropping dead from thirst, as i hadnt realized seaside aquifers are salty. the last few survivors went melancholy and were wiped out by unicorns.

so its great to have an easy to understand manual for getting through to do some mining.

also, on a map without enough soil layers, could you use constructed walls made from the stone blocks you get from the caravans to the same effect as the soil squares you dropped in your example?

[Rhenaya]

the pictures are from ghoulsblade, i just made the maps and movies. so if the picture visuals are helpful, thank him

[Rakeela]

I just tried all these on a map.  It didn't work right.  The new layers of soil were considered damp from the start - breaking into them to put down stairs resulted in the new stairs being immediately waterlogged.

[Rhenaya]

the outer ones of th cave in are next to the aquifer, so if youwant a single dowstair the centerblock must be at least 3x3, also they are shown allasdamp as long a little water is above (even its just one deep)

[Rakeela]

I did a 4x4 cave-in.  I didn't wait for the water above to fade though, that must've been my mistake.

[Rhenaya]

as you see in ghoulblades picture "pump out" and as you see in my forts i have a pump set up (in the second movie you even see it gets destroyed and i want to rebuild it at the end). also yes waiting for the water do despawn after this is needed too