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[Heron TSG]

You could even take that one further, and say 1 difference + wind in that direction.  We have 2 wind speeds as it stands (no direction, but that's easy...)  That would allow sand to actually form dunes (especially if you allowed for 2 spaces of lee per height..

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Or something... You could run it so that dunes would form naturally, and sand would bunch up against buildings and even bury things...

AN EPIPHANY! thanks, and this will be added.

Barbarossa cancels immediate addition: hungry.

[Vattic]

I like the idea about sand.

I don't know how suitable this is for this second but they appear aboveground so I'll mention this anyway. Currently there are only big roads and bridges (unless I'm mistaken), I think it would be nice to see small paths and even small bridges, rope bridges over steep canyons for example, not suitable for caravans however.

Currently rope bridges like this would be fairly useless as the land is covered in ramps and truly steep canyons are rare or non existent, but when the terrain really becomes a problem with travelling it could be an interesting an useful addition. You could even make canyons stop adventures when in T mode like how mountains do, causing players to look for these bridges to get past.

[Heron TSG]

rope bridges could work... two ropes for every tile, and you have a bridge that only bipeds can cross!

[Granite26]

Given the way roads work, it may be doable to say 1 rope per 4 tiles.

Max size that won't break it should cover your 'bipeds' issue.

Also... Cutting them for adventure action!!!

[catoblepas]

Has anyone mentioned icebergs yet? Under the current system, I am pretty sure that an iceberg-like structure would just cause a cave in, but doesn't ice float? building a fort on an iceberg would be of dubious usefulness, but it would be neat to see them appear from time to time.

[InsanityPrelude]

The bit about river stones had me thinking about placers. We already have this to an extent with the platinum deposits on beaches, but it could be expanded- add in other commonly found substances (gem gravels?), maybe put them along rivers too (although your dorfs would have to contend with the carp to get to it!)...

[Othob Rithol]

I love the dunes idea put forth by Granite as an extension of RoboCicero's initial idea. This would make desert forts so much more interesting. The only problem comes from FPS hitting the single digits from a map-wide flow

Rope bridges have come up before and I have never understood why they (and their logical addition, rope ladders) have not yet been implemented.

To expand on InsanityPrelude's mention of river deposits, I'd like to see two connected additions: These deposits actually leading upriver to a vein (or more correctly the other way around) and the ability to pan for precious elements in rivers (surface and cave). The amount of work necessary to remove gold dust equal to a gold ore "rock" might be excessive, but it does pose a potential new labor and skill, as well as provide a very limited source of rare metals to a fort otherwise bereft of them.

[G-Flex]

I just looked at the master list here and noticed that it has silkworms on it.

Honestly, I find this kind of redundant. DF already has phantom spiders and cave spiders as silk animals, and phantom spiders live above-ground. I guess a non-evil version would be nice, though.

[Granite26]

I love the dunes idea put forth by Granite as an extension of RoboCicero's initial idea. This would make desert forts so much more interesting. The only problem comes from FPS hitting the single digits from a map-wide flow

Yeah, that is a snag, isn't it

[Silverionmox]

I just looked at the master list here and noticed that it has silkworms on it.

Honestly, I find this kind of redundant. DF already has phantom spiders and cave spiders as silk animals, and phantom spiders live above-ground. I guess a non-evil version would be nice, though.

Hey, we have a few dozen types of wood, not to mention metals and stones. The more the merrier.. Especially since silkworms are functionally different from cave spiders (not dangerous, above ground, etc.)

[Granite26]

I just looked at the master list here and noticed that it has silkworms on it.

Honestly, I find this kind of redundant. DF already has phantom spiders and cave spiders as silk animals, and phantom spiders live above-ground. I guess a non-evil version would be nice, though.

Hey, we have a few dozen types of wood, not to mention metals and stones. The more the merrier.. Especially since silkworms are functionally different from cave spiders (not dangerous, above ground, etc.)

I think that's the problem though.  All of a sudden silk becomes easy.

Still, they'll probably get added about the same time cows get fixed

[Mel_Vixen]

Since dunes are much slower then water i wouldnt see that much problems with them.

[Aldaris]

Since dunes are much slower then water i wouldnt see that much problems with them.

Maybe only check them 1/100 as often as water? Remember sand is only a few layers thick, oceanside forts work pretty well with 10 Zs of water.

[Mephansteras]

I think that's the problem though.  All of a sudden silk becomes easy.

Well, if they took the amount of effort to get silk out of in game that they do in real life it'd make them a safe but labor-intensive way to get silk. Plus, they can only survive in certain climates, I think.

[Vattic]

Wouldn't cave spider silk and giant cave spider silk still be more valuable anyway?