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[EnigmaticHat]

I've faced a few master snipers and IME they're as annoying to face as the level lets them be.  Facing them as attack on the final map of Dustbowl?  Leave and play something else.  If you're on something more sane its entirely possible to flank and kill them as long as you know where the long lines of fire you need to avoid are.  Remember, if they're zoomed in they have the same pathetic FOV as every other sniper, while if they're not the most damage they can do in one shot is 150.  That might seem like a lot but remember A if you're a combat class on a good team you should be overhealed and B even if they unscope they'll still move at 1/3 speed for the time it takes to reload, so you'll get your own hit in for free.  Also well designed TF2 maps have only a few places where snipers can engage at a range and not be firing down extremely narrow lines of fire; its entirely viable to rush and occupy those positions from the beginning as scout unless you're playing an attack/defense mode.

Master soldiers and scouts on the other hand there is no trick, you're just going to die 1v1 unless you're a comparable skill level.  They're also more common because those classes see more use in competitive play.

[The Scout]

Mini-Sentries with the Wrangler is a good counter to many classes. Except heavy.

[Spehss _]

Remember, if they're zoomed in they have the same pathetic FOV as every other sniper, while if they're not the most damage they can do in one shot is 150.

Wait, can standard rifles headshot when not scoped in? I thought they could only bodyshot, which does ~50 no matter what. I know there's a new rifle that's all no scope, but disregarding that.

[Corai]

Never been able to headshot without the scope.

[Putnam]

You cannot except with a rifle that specifically says you can, of which there is only one (The Classic, added in the most recent update).

[EnigmaticHat]

No, but you can quickscope, which AFAIK takes effectively the same amount of time.  And hits for 150 damage.

[DJ]

Take Bonk!, run into close range with the sniper, fill him with lead when Bonk! expires.

[The Scout]

Take Bonk!, run into close range with the sniper, fill him with lead when Bonk! expires.

The second Bonk! ends, you'll get a bullet in the head.

[Putnam]

No, but you can quickscope, which AFAIK takes effectively the same amount of time.  And hits for 150 damage.

There's a 0.4 second delay on headshots after scoping specifically so that it does not take the same amount of time.

Doesn't stop it from being my primary method of damage as sniper, but whatever.

Also, I'm a mediocre sniper, probably above average (given that the average is skewed heavily by newer players). Turbine is surprisingly easy a map to completely wreck on as sniper. I have at least once shut down the entire middle room with just the help of a demoman or a soldier.

[miauw62]

The average sniper is a guy with a machine wearing a gibus.

[Iceblaster]

The average sniper is a guy with a machine wearing a gibus.

Do-Does th-that mean I-I'm av-average!?

:c

_{Though I am at least somewhat decent as a sniper.}

EDIT: Are the B12 servers not functional anymore? Been trying to join the past few days when I play, buuuut every time it's not added to my favorite list. Might be on me though.

[miauw62]

AFAIK the server died a long time ago.

[Iceblaster]

Damn.

Well! It was a good try

[Cheedows]

Damn, so much for getting my ass kicked by fellow Bay12ers. 

[miauw62]

I MAY actually be able to run a TF2 server. Not sure if my specs are good enough, and it wouldn't have 100% uptime, but it could work.
Hmmmm. That means I should have to get around to it, though :V