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[Fniff]

Hey, I'm getting into playing Demoman. Any tips for a newbie in the class? I know enough that stickybombs + tight corrridors + rush by opposing team to get to the stalled payload cart = beautiful explosion.

[Duuvian]

Tips applicable to TF2 over a year ago, so it may have changed.

1: use Scottish resistance

optional: use the nailboard that lets you push carts or capture points faster

2: Shoot out 14 sticky bombs. Put at least 3 in each entrance, 4 is better.

3: Switch to grenade launcher and spam a few grenades in each entrance. It will keep enemies from running through while a grenade bounces around in it. Often seeing a few grenades bouncing in one entrance will make them take a longer detour to try to find one without grenades in it.

4: When someone runs out of an entrance, shoot grenade launcher at the enemy and thus your crosshairs are near the stickies anyways. You should explode them when they are near them. Since Scottish resistance will not explode all your stickies you will have some left at other entrances.

5: Replace stickies as quickly as possible. Make sure you keep 14 out.

A great Demoman map is Hightower. That last stretch where the cart has to go uphill inside the barn is demoman heaven.

You could also use the standard sticky launcher and use air bursts but that always struck me as less useful for protecting objectives but perhaps better for getting kills.

[Cheedows]

I'll be unboxing them as soon as I come home from a trip.

As a side note, the next TF2 comic is scheduled to come out today or tomorrow.
Hype?

You lied!

I said it was scheduled to come out.
Valve has never been good with schedules.

I don't think we have to mention that game.

[miauw62]

Duuvian: Scottish resistance isn't really all that neccesary, stock launcher works very well too.

My tip is to put one or two stickies in clear view, and then put the rest behind the frame of the door where the enemy can't see them. It's a very transparent trick, but you'd be surprised how many people you can fool that way.

[Duuvian]

I used SR because it doesn't explode all your stickies at once, only the ones near your crosshairs, as well as having another 6 out at a time at the cost of not being able to airburst them due to the short arming period.

[JoshuaFH]

Alot of people don't like the ScoRes, because winbombing (that is, firing stickies into people's face and detonating them) is alot harder. However, one of my favorite Youtubers ever uses it alot, and he's ASTOUNDING:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8xNvP6fA0&hd=1

<3 Thief so much.

[TamerVirus]

But wasn't sticky facing nerfed recently?

[The Scout]

But wasn't sticky facing nerfed recently?

It was reverted, because it kept the engies back.

[Fniff]

I managed to backstab two people before getting killed at the Nucleus king of the hill capture point. How is this impressive? I wasn't cloaked. I was also on fire.

I am stealthy as spy, you guys.

[Graknorke]

But wasn't sticky facing nerfed recently?

It was reverted, because it kept the engies back.

Don't you love it when a game is so carefully balanced that you can't change anything without ruining it?

[Descan]

I managed to backstab two people before getting killed at the Nucleus king of the hill capture point. How is this impressive? I wasn't cloaked. I was also on fire.

I am stealthy as spy, you guys.

I don't see the problem here.

[Fniff]

I managed to backstab two people before getting killed at the Nucleus king of the hill capture point. How is this impressive? I wasn't cloaked. I was also on fire.

I am stealthy as spy, you guys.

I don't see the problem here.

Neither do I. All the best burglars and spies throughout history were, in fact, constantly on fire and screaming.

[Spehss _]

Alot of people don't like the ScoRes, because winbombing (that is, firing stickies into people's face and detonating them) is alot harder. However, one of my favorite Youtubers ever uses it alot, and he's ASTOUNDING:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg8xNvP6fA0&hd=1

<3 Thief so much.

I love ScoRes, sticky spam is not my thing, and when I have tried it it just isn't that fun. I prefer blasting face with the standard pipe launcher and using either the ScoRes for tactical traps and territory control and stuff. If I need to destroy a nest quickly pipe bombs are amazing for blowing up clusters of buildings and people in seconds.

This guy's series of videos has great tips for using scottish resistance.

Also, Fniff, learn to use your grenade launchers. Being able to land direct hits with grenades is a huge difference between an average demo and a good demo.

[Fniff]

I've been trying to use stickies and direct hits with grenades in equal measure. I can see the value of both. Sticky launchers are amazing (Especially with the Scottish Resistance: I didn't actually realize the mouse control thing) and make you feel really happy when they do work out, but they only work in certain situations. Grenade launchers are artillery, so it's good for making people scatter but really shines when someone is running at you from a long distance and you know how high to aim so that the grenade hits them.

I'm still not great at demoing, but I can see it being a class I could really enjoy.

[EnigmaticHat]

In my experience the most effective demos use their sticky launchers like grenade launchers, and do nothing else.