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[Duke 2.0]

 Yeah spys bleed when shot while cloaked, and depending on the watch flicker.

 I don't understand the Kunai. In a world where the difference between killing a scout and a soldier is a  second of extra DPS for most classes I don't see how this minor of a situational health buff is helpful. He could have 300 health for all I care, the moment he is found out he's dead.

[Jackrabbit]

No no, not whilst cloaked, whilst disguised. I swear I've seen blood but it's always in situations where I can't tell if it's the spy's blood.

[Siquo]

I don't think there's blood if you shoot a disguised spy.

The kunai is great not just because of the overheal, but the heal. With the dead ringer, it goes like this: Run up, get killed(cloak), get behind the enemy, recharge ringer, stab stab, get hit a few times, recloak, repeat. The kunai is like the demoknights' katana like that: every kill is an insta-heal.

Walking backwards usually means I walk into the enemy, revealing my location.

[justinlee999]

If I'm not using the dead ringer, I backpedal. Works best that way

[Duke 2.0]

 Still, the downside of having 60 base health seems like you'll get instakilled by a ton of things. Granted he's a light class so that'll happen anyway, but again it just seems like situational survivability at the cost of being significantly weaker the rest of the time.

[Siquo]

It is indeed not a lot of health. A good shotgun blast, or almost anything, will instakill you. Except that the DR fixes that, I think the kunai with anything but the DR is pretty suicidal.

[Tradanbattlan]

...Now I understand the flak I get for using the Kunai with the Cloak and Dagger. I use the C&D to move through brighter areas, then camp behind something and recharge in darker ones, uncloaked so I might be able to stab someone passing by for a quick snack.

Or being a battlespy with the Kunai. I'm not as reckless as I normally am with the Kunai because I recognise that  I'm not as resiliant as a regular spy. It's encouragement not to get hit at all.

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

I unboxed a strange direct hit yesterday. I almost have the 100 kill milestone already.

[Shadowlord]

I always use either the Direct Hit or the Cow Mangler when I'm playing soldier. The Mangler is good for bombardment and firing at entrances when defending a base; The direct hit, of course, is excellent for doing massive damage to anyone who gets struck by it.

I need to make or get a righteous bison.

[Tyler6498]

The DH eats face but nobody uses it because they'd rather have the noob tube. :U

I guess the comments about the kunai make me suicidal, since I've a strange one I use and I loathe the DR. The fact that getting hit = death makes me less likely to get hit, so I guess it works.

My strange kunai is Positively Inhumane and I use it with the Invisibility watch. Another thing that makes this knife pretty awesome is how when you stab an engineer, you get 180 hp to act like insurance when sapping his sentry! This knife taught me how to do this pretty much 95% of the time with the normal knife in only a matter of a day. YER taught me how to use my cloak more efficiently and how to rely on things like stairstabs and leaping stabs. I use the normal knife a majority of the time BUT I find all the knifes useful in a way to get better as being pitted with a different situation of survival would teach me how to survive differently, and the training mixes with any knife.

[Shadowlord]

Those knives taught you to play better? Huh. They just got me killed more, which led me to note that I wasn't helping the team at all by being killed repeatedly, leading me to switch back to a useful class.

[Duke 2.0]

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That gun had a crack?

 I still maintain my comment from a few pages back about spy play being 70% luck. It's unfortunate that Pyro also has a similar amount to his gameplay. Soldier is odd because I think he has the least random chance that can fuck him up. He can rocket jump or Equalizer dash out of most unfavorable situations that would be hopeless for any other class.

[mr. macduggan]

Pyro is not luck based if you abuse your shotgun. It's about 70% of the power of a scattergun and is not to be trifled with. Also, airblast can help you survive even if you turn a corner into a spun-up heavy by pushing him back long enough to let you retreat. I cannot recommend the degreaser/shotgun/axtinguisher loadout more strongly.

[Duke 2.0]

 Actually, yeah, airblast alone removes a good 20-30% of the bullshit deaths by being able to toss the offending corner heavy back around the corner. Shotgun does not change the numbers.

[Siquo]

I still maintain my comment from a few pages back about spy play being 70% luck. It's unfortunate that Pyro also has a similar amount to his gameplay.

Nonsense. Those two especially require a "get behind enemy lines" strategy. Knowing the map is 70% for these.