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[PTTG??]

Certainly from the perspective of dealing damage directly, yes. But if you consider one's usefulness to the team, the increased mobility combined with increased resistance to knockback (a major problem for ubered sentryhunters), and the fact that in most situations, you're going to either use rockets or that stupid pickaxe, then it's actually pretty good.

[Duke 2.0]

But if you consider one's usefulness to the team

Are you even reading this?

 It is incredibly difficult to land one of these things and the damage usually isn't even that high. It just isn't reliable enough for me to jump into a crowd of enemies.

 I'd consider it a sidegrade. It's very dangerous but it provides some passive bonuses to self-damage to help deal with the fact that it won't deal damage as well as the shotgun.

[PTTG??]

You don't need to deal damage to be credit to team. A soldier that can bounce around, get into a good place, and rain rockets on a sentry nest from afar is more useful than one that kills dozens of ground level enemies without moving forward.

I'll agree it's a sidegrade... but that's just the point. We don't want the unlockables to be upgrades. They are changes to gameplay, not a simple pay-to-win mechanism.

[Duke 2.0]

 My anger was primarily directed towards people saying it's somehow overpowered. I see it as a pretty good sidegrade to the shotgun. I don't see justifications for how anything about combining both boots is overpowered.

[3]

The Gunboats are already a perfectly good sidegrade. Combining them with the Mantreads will either result in something just as gimmicky as the Mantreads already are (if the stomp effect stays the way it is), which is to say, totally impractical, or it'll be ridiculously synergistic (if the stomp effect is buffed to the point of actually being useful).

Better to leave the Gunboats alone and buff the 'Treads.

[jester]

The reason I say its overpowered is the combination on all the damage reductions make it very easy to rocket jump all over the place without taking much damage and the knockback reduction is a noticeable difference to a good player.  To a normal tf2 player they are a sidegrade, to someone who is good they are a way to fly over the map bombing enemy meds and other soft targets while staying at almost full health.  If you havent seen how the gunboats can be alot more powerful than the shotgun in the right hands then you probably wont understand what im talking about.

  I play alot of comp team games and its a real eye opener on what weapons can be super powerful in the right hands.  For most people the loch and load and the direct hit are sidegrades, for pros, they are flat upgrades.  If a solli isnt going to be working tight with a med, then the gunboats are usually the better option than the shottie.

[Mongol13524]

I know how to balance it, no random crits.

[Cecilff2]

I know how to balance it, no random crits.

/valvelogic

[jc6036]

I think that I've asked this before, but...what are your favorite public servers, assuming you ever go on public servers? I'm rather fond of the Ponyville servers and the 24/7[INSERT MAP HERE] servers.

[hemmingjay]

Ace Fortress 2. But please don't go there, as I have a hard enough time getting in as it is. 

[Enzo]

I think that I've asked this before, but...what are your favorite public servers, assuming you ever go on public servers? I'm rather fond of the Ponyville servers and the 24/7[INSERT MAP HERE] servers.

The Lions Den (US-West) whenever it's not full. Alltalk server, active when I usually play, chill regulars, decent ping, custom maps played often (with map noms + voting rather than rotation). Best of all, usually a high percentage of good players on. I hate it when you join a server and 1 or two people have 3x the score of everyone else, because they're the only ones who have any idea what they're doing :|. Much more satisfying getting MVP on a team of skilled players.

The Machine - Advanced Teamplay (also US-West) is also a really good server. Fits most of what I described for the Lions Den (except alltalk), I just prefer The Lions Den for the chill atmosphere.

[Mongol13524]

If I feel like owning n00bz, any Valve server. Rocket Blast otherwise.

[miauw62]

Aerolite gaming ftw! (3 servers: turbine 24/7, 2fort 24/7 and payload vote, soon to have unofficial maps from tf2maps.net)
But if youre going on the valve servers, and those are full of noobs, wont there be a HUGE concentration of backburners, phlognisators, machina bodyshotters, tomislavs, and all the others?

[Enzo]

I honestly don't understand the drive to join servers full of players drastically less skilled than you. Empty victory much?

But if youre going on the valve servers, and those are full of noobs, wont there be a HUGE concentration of backburners, phlognisators, machina bodyshotters, tomislavs, and all the others?

I don't see how this would matter anyway. Giving bad players these weapons doesn't suddenly give them an unfair advantage or anything, it just lets them mitigate the consequences of being bad.

[miauw62]

Still annoys me tough.
So i usually only really play tf2 when alot of the server regs are on the servers.
If you want some really hilarious things, just start up a bot game and play as spy.