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[Bromor Neckbeard]

I can believe that Strife was taught that.  In my seventh-grade biology class, the teacher outright told us that we were skipping the "evolution" chapter because some parents didn't want their kids learning about it.  I think I was the only guy in class who was in favor of it, but I knew enough to keep my mouth shut.

This was in 1991.

[Jude]

The vast majority of our military is some form of Christian,

Nominally Christian. You can't be a Christian and be in the military any more than you can be a Christian and make your living as a mugger.

[Strife26]

You're one to denote fine points of Christianess Jude? Let us think what we want. Religon is what individuals make of it.

[Jude]

You're one to denote fine points of Christianess Jude?

Well I dare say I know more about it than you

Let us think what we want. Religon is what individuals make of it.

You can think what you want. You're free to be wrong about stuff. And I'm free to tell you you're wrong.

[SolarShado]

You're one to denote fine points of Christianess Jude?

Well I dare say I know more about it than you

Let us think what we want. Religon is what individuals make of it.

You can think what you want. You're free to be wrong about stuff. And I'm free to tell you you're wrong.

DUDE! are you trying to start a flame war??

[Cheeetar]

No, he's getting annoyed at Strifes interpretation of the bible. Specifically, how Strife does not care about/debates the trueness of Jesus not liking killing.

[Bromor Neckbeard]

Well, Jesus did say a lot of stuff about "love every man like he was your brother" and "turn the other cheek" and "whatever you do to any of them it's like you're doing it to me" and "if somebody asks for your cloak give him the shirt off your back too", and none of that seems like it would go along too well with being in the military.

But then, I'm not a Christian, so there may be some finer points I'm missing just from reading the Bible a couple of times.  The majority of the Army is Christian, and I'm not arrogant enough to claim that I have some kind of monopoly on being a real Christian even if I was one.  Plus, I'm a realist, and we DO need a military to protect United Fruit and Halliburton's stock prices our country in the case of an attack, and it would be pretty shitty if the majority religion in this country left it up to the minority to defend our country solely by ourselves.

(I wouldn't even post this, but the thread creator has said that it's served its purpose, and it's almost certainly destined to be locked by tomorrow afternoon the way things are going.)

[Strife26]

You're one to denote fine points of Christianess Jude?

Well I dare say I know more about it than you

Let us think what we want. Religon is what individuals make of it.

You can think what you want. You're free to be wrong about stuff. And I'm free to tell you you're wrong.

Your lucky I'm not sick anymore, that would have gotten a mean response, if I wasn't happy from finishing a short narritive.

I rate country before God, in a lot of things. I don't predict seeing them in direct conflict with each other, without one being corrupted to such an extent where it no longer the original matters (for example, if President Harrison declares being Pastafarianist illegal, it's not really America any more is it?). I've resigned myself to the possibilty of eternal damnation a long time ago.

Sorry Jude, but I've thought deeper about my own beliefs than you have.

[Cheeetar]

Ok. So, you're a patriot, and you are a christian (or atleast, you believe you are, which is basically the same thing). You will 'disobey god' in order to be in your countries military. Why do you value your country above god? If there is an eternal afterlife heaven sort of deal, and this life is just a test, why do you, knowingly, condemn yourself to hell to make an inconsequential (compared to eternal afterlife) country slightly more protected?

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

'Ey, people stop the flamingos and framin'.

But yeah, I think believers should put their belief before countries.

_{Which make me a filthy Islamists who wants the seculars to be hanged}

[EchoP]

Oh boy...

Before I start this post, I would like to point out that I do not believe that Intelligent Design is valid, and feel that evolution is much more logical. I am not a religious person.

HOWEVER...

In this thread, it appears that the only side arguing properly is the religious one. Some people on the opposing side are just shouting 'Nyah nyah, the Church can't adapt to anything, therefore you are wrong'. People in this thread need to realize that just because someone is religious does not mean that they intend to force their views down your throat, which is exactly what the evolutionists are doing.

Also, bagging out Christianity is not a valid argument in this debate...

(tl;dr: I am not religious, and everyone needs to STFU)

[Strife26]

Ok. So, you're a patriot, and you are a christian (or atleast, you believe you are, which is basically the same thing). You will 'disobey god' in order to be in your countries military. Why do you value your country above god? If there is an eternal afterlife heaven sort of deal, and this life is just a test, why do you, knowingly, condemn yourself to hell to make an inconsequential (compared to eternal afterlife) country slightly more protected?

Yes.

[deadlycairn]

He has Fiddler's Green.

Anyway, I've never heard of anything BUT evolution used as the scientific explanation for the origins of life - I always thought it unlikely, so please explain what the scientifically accepted theory is.

[Strife26]

Most of the time, it comes down to electricly charged mud puddle theory.

[inaluct]

Anyway, I've never heard of anything BUT evolution used as the scientific explanation for the origins of life - I always thought it unlikely, so please explain what the scientifically accepted theory is.

No, look, unless you live in some sort of country inhabited almost totally by idiots, evolution is not ever used as an explanation of the origin of life. It has absolutely nothing at all to do with the origin of life.

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