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Single Giant library workroom. Takes a bit of set-up but once done is done.

90 (40%)

Specific Library sections. Books are in the library and the menu is managable.

111 (49.3%)

Generic library sections with free floating books. Messy, but flexible.

19 (8.4%)

Other: Describe (keep in mind the limits of modding)

5 (2.2%)

Total Members Voted: 224

[Splint]

Periodic reconstruction allows for it to be simply cleaned up by an idle worker. I do agree it's a bit of a problem though otherwise.

[Mephansteras]

Periodic reconstruction allows for it to be simply cleaned up by an idle worker. I do agree it's a bit of a problem though otherwise.

I stick a food stockpile set only for grime nearby. The dwarves will clean it off, stockpile it, and then someone comes along and cleans it up.

I'll play with it a bit, though, see if I can up with a better solution, though.

In general, testing is going well. No issues so far, but I need to get my current fort a little further along so I can test a few of the specific bugs and the winter plants.

[Splint]

Could have a generic dust produced instead. Wouldn't that just go "poof" into the air while still having the desired affect?

[thistleknot]

i really hope you incorporate fps improvements with standardized materials.  So so so hope.  It's like a new defacto standard in my opinion.  It doesn't have to be done on all creatures, but the ones where it doesn't matter what type of sinew or fat or pus it needs, you can make a standard animal creature (meph's invention btw) and point to this creature for all that stuff, but to be honest, it creates some headaches,  I had some with chitin and meat...

but you can compare with my civmwforge mod or one of it's predecessor's to get an idea on what was changed...

Update:
Apparently rubble 2.0 has this as an "add-on"

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=128013.0

have fun trying to figure out the instructions

update:
yeah, I just did my creatures to standard materials... didn't take too long.

On grime:
Is it possible to make grime rot?

[Mephansteras]

Version 2.8 is up!

[Putnam]

Then update your topic name >:I

[Mephansteras]

Knew I was forgetting something...

[Putnam]

Your sig too

[Splint]

Awesome. Now I can regen the world for Carrayscar! Was holding off on that since you said a new version was coming out soon.

[kilakan]

downloaded and starting playing, pretty awesome so far except.... my plumphelmets and other plants never actually grow up for some reason?  Also what's the metalworking manuscript?

[Mephansteras]

downloaded and starting playing, pretty awesome so far except.... my plumphelmets and other plants never actually grow up for some reason?  Also what's the metalworking manuscript?

That's odd...farming was working fine for me.

Manuscripts are used to build libraries. Manuscript crates need to be unpacked at a library workbench first.

[thistleknot]

Hey Meph...

I standardized the creatures for you (and that was it, no other shenanigans)

It has the added consequence of changing the pricing on leather/chitin...

But other than that, it should give great fps improvement.

Let me know what you think.

One could always change the creature_mat:animal:leather to local_creature_mat:leather, and I think that would retain value for that specific material.

derp

http://dffd.wimbli.com/category.php?id=12

[Mephansteras]

Yeah, I'll probably leave the leather piece alone, since I did a bunch of stuff to differentiate some of the leathers. Stuff like nervous tissue and cartilage can all be the same, though, since those don't really matter.

[thistleknot]

apparently I posted this here and not in a message...

but I was testing out some raw changes after some tests comparing various types of chitin and leather armors...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

well I applied that to cave crab and ironhide centipede

didn't really do what I had hoped

19:25

ironhide vs cave crab

(from 44 vs 44)

further update:
using dfhack's gui/gm-editor, I looked at the values in memory for both antman chitin vs ironhide chitin armor, as well as dog leather vs cow leather armor

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

dfhack.matinfo.decode(dfhack.gui.getSelectedItem()).material.strength

ironhide chitin armor

absorption: 100

bending: 60000
Shear: 115000
torsion: 60000
impact: 100000
tensile: 60000
compressive: 100000

fracture: 65000
shear: 130000
torsion: 65000
impact: 100000
tensile: 65000
compressive: 100000

strain_at_yield
bending: 100
shear: 100
torsion: 100
impact: 100
tensile: 100
compressive: 100

max_edge: 5000

antman chitin

absorption: 100

bending: 60000
Shear: 115000
torsion: 60000
impact: 100000
tensile: 60000
compressive: 100000

fracture: 65000
shear: 130000
torsion: 65000
impact: 100000
tensile: 65000
compressive: 100000

strain_at_yield
bending: 100
shear: 100
torsion: 100
impact: 100
tensile: 100
compressive: 100

max_edge: 5000

dog leather armor

absorption: 40

yield

bending: 10000
shear: 25000
torsion: 10000
impact: 10000
tensile: 10000
compressive: 10000

fracture
bending: 10000
shear: 25000
torsion: 10000
impact: 10000
tensile: 10000
compressive: 10000

strain_at_yield

bending: 50000
shear: 50000
torsion: 50000
impact: 50000
tensile: 50000
compressive: 50000

max_edge: 0

cow leather armor

absorption: 40

yield

bending: 10000
shear: 25000
torsion: 10000
impact: 10000
tensile: 10000
compressive: 10000

fracture
bending: 10000
shear: 25000
torsion: 10000
impact: 10000
tensile: 10000
compressive: 10000

strain_at_yield

bending: 50000
shear: 50000
torsion: 50000
impact: 50000
tensile: 50000
compressive: 50000

max_edge: 0

to do so

you highlight said armor with "k"
and then in dfhack (thanks to Putnam for the tip)

gui/gm-editor dfhack.matinfo.decode(dfhack.gui.getSelectedItem()).material.strength

In conclusion: I think it's safe to say that varying types of leather or chitin equal the same defensive value based on their material_template

[Mephansteras]

Huh, well, good to know. Guess my initial tests were a fluke. I'll have to go through and add in some tougher material templates, then.