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Single Giant library workroom. Takes a bit of set-up but once done is done.

90 (40%)

Specific Library sections. Books are in the library and the menu is managable.

111 (49.3%)

Generic library sections with free floating books. Messy, but flexible.

19 (8.4%)

Other: Describe (keep in mind the limits of modding)

5 (2.2%)

Total Members Voted: 224

[Mephansteras]

Which version are you using? Last time I tested everything all of the magma ironworks worked fine...

[Mephansteras]

No real news on the modding front. Still testing out a bunch of stuff and I have a few more primitive civs to add. Having *all* of them on a world is definitely a bit much since it crowds the "civs on embark" screen if you have more then 20 or so on the list. And having that many trading partners would get crazy. So you'll probably want to limit how many you use on any given world.

Looking forward, I have a few options for what to do next.

I could do a major materials mod and add in fur, wool, feathers, quills, paper/vellum, ink, and libraries. Might also figure out what I want to do about the Stone Guardians that were in CF 1.x

Or I could see about adding in a bunch of the expanded civs on my list. Dark Elves, Tainted Men, Hill Dwarves, the various other Giants, and so on.

Preferences?

[Lord Shonus]

I'd prefer the new giants, then the materials.

[Dohon]

I prefer the materials first, then the new races. We already have a few new critters to smash thanks to the primitive civs. And I'm quite psyched about libraries myself.

[bobbens]

I decided to give this mod a try (really like genesis, but thought more alchemy could be badass). However I'm having serious issues trying to get civilizations to survive in a medium region? Anyone have any advice besides just cut down the simulation time? With so much stuff it seems awfully hard to balance.

[kilakan]

I decided to give this mod a try (really like genesis, but thought more alchemy could be badass). However I'm having serious issues trying to get civilizations to survive in a medium region? Anyone have any advice besides just cut down the simulation time? With so much stuff it seems awfully hard to balance.

increase the number of civs to be seeded to 50, I always have them all with that.

[Prepaid Lenin]

Magma Ironworks aren't working for me either, I just downloaded this last night.

[Mephansteras]

Is this the Ironworks stand-alone mod or the ironworks that comes with Civilization Forge?

[Prepaid Lenin]

It was from the link you have in the first post, so the whole thing I guess.

[Mephansteras]

Hmm. Strange. My last fort used all of the various Magma buildings just fine.

Can you upload a save for me to check out?

[Prepaid Lenin]

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2891

I haven't used the file depot before, but I think I got it right.

[Mephansteras]

Cool. I'll take a look at it tonight.

[kilakan]

if you build any custom buildings before saving/quitting atleast once, they all break... forever.

[drayath]

Here is a diagram showing how the alchemy reactions link together if it helps anyone use alchemy.

http://www.brightsoft.net/AlchemyGraph.png

Key:
Boxes = mineable items
Triangle = bars
Dotted boxes = plants/trees
Ovals = alchemy materials
Dotted Ovals = alternative ways to make something.

If you want to recreate or tweak the diagram here is the data to create the graph using the free GraphViz program.

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digraph G {
   ratio=compress;
   size=16;
   
   // minable
   Cinnabar [shape=box];
   Cobaltite [shape=box];
   Stibnite [shape=box];
   Melanerite [shape=box];
   Chalcanthite [shape=box];
   Bauxite [shape=box];
   Alunite [shape=box];
   "Alum Slate" [shape=box];
   "Rock Salt" [shape=box];
   Talc [shape=box];
   Olivine [shape=box];
   Dolomite [shape=box];
   "Frost Crystal" [shape=box];
   Fireheart [shape=box];
   "Storm Crystal" [shape=box];
   "Ward Crystal" [shape=box];
   "Flare Crystal" [shape=box];
   Saltpeter [shape=box];
   Truesilver [shape=box];
   Levitite [shape=box];
   
   // bars
   "Crystal Glass" [shape=triangle];
   Mithril [shape=triangle];
   Levisium [shape=triangle];   
   Gold [shape=triangle];
   Platinum [shape=triangle];
   Tin [shape=triangle];
   Silver [shape=triangle];
   Copper [shape=triangle];
   Iron [shape=triangle];
   Glacium [shape=triangle];
   Incendium [shape=triangle];
   Tempestium [shape=triangle];
   "Ward Iron" [shape=triangle];
   Elementium [shape=triangle];
   "Blazing Incendium" [shape=triangle];
   "Bright Silver" [shape=triangle];
   "Royal Bronze" [shape=triangle];
   "Verdant Bronze" [shape=triangle];
   "Green Copper" [shape=triangle];
   Orihalcum [shape=triangle];
   "Tempered Crystal" [shape=triangle];
   "Night Crystal" [shape=triangle];
   "Blood Crystal" [shape=triangle];
   "Void Crystal" [shape=triangle];   
   
   // Plant
   "Oil Nut" [shape=box, style=dotted];
   "Tunnel Tube" [shape=box, style=dotted];
   
   // Structal
   Oil1 [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   Oil2 [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   Alum1 [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   Alum2 [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   Alum3 [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   "Emen Aren1" [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   "Emen Aren2" [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   "Ikal Nabid1" [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   "Ikal Nabid2" [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   "Ikal Nabid3" [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   Vitriol1 [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];
   Vitriol2 [width=.37, height=.25, fontsize=10, style=dotted];

   Potash -> Saltpeter;
   
   Fuel  -> Quicksilver;
   Cinnabar -> Quicksilver;
   
   Oil -> "Midnight Elixir" [weight=5];
   Cobaltite -> "Midnight Elixir";
   
   Fuel -> Antimony;
   Stibnite -> Antimony [weight=5];
   
   Fuel -> "Green Vitriol";
   Melanerite -> "Green Vitriol";
   
   Fuel -> Vitriol1;
   "Green Vitriol" -> Vitriol1;
   
   Fuel -> Vitriol2;
   Alum -> Vitriol2;
   
   Vitriol1 -> Vitriol;
   Vitriol2 -> Vitriol;
   
   Chalcanthite -> "Blue Vitriol";
   
   Potash -> Alum1;
   "Alum Slate" -> Alum1;
   
   Potash -> Alum2;
   Bauxite -> Alum2;
   
   Potash -> Alum3;
   Alunite -> Alum3;
   
   Alum1 -> Alum;
   Alum2 -> Alum;
   Alum3 -> Alum;
   
   "Green Vitriol" -> "Emen Aren1" [weight=5];
   Saltpeter -> "Emen Aren1";
   
   "Blue Vitriol" -> "Emen Aren2" [weight=2];
   Saltpeter -> "Emen Aren2";
   Alum -> "Emen Aren2";
   
   "Emen Aren1" -> "Emen Aren";
   "Emen Aren2" -> "Emen Aren";
   
   "Rock Salt" -> Salt;

   Vitriol -> "Nabid Ubal";
   Salt -> "Nabid Ubal";
   
   "Nabid Ubal" -> "Relon Aren";
   "Emen Aren" -> "Relon Aren";
   
   Talc -> "Ikal Nabid1";
   Olivine -> "Ikal Nabid2";   
   Dolomite -> "Ikal Nabid3";
   
   "Ikal Nabid1" -> "Ikal Nabid";
   "Ikal Nabid2" -> "Ikal Nabid";
   "Ikal Nabid3" -> "Ikal Nabid";
   
   "Relon Aren" -> "Frost Elixir" [weight=5];
   "Frost Crystal "-> "Frost Elixir";
   
   "Relon Aren" -> "Fire Elixir" [weight=5];
   "Fireheart" -> "Fire Elixir";
   
   "Relon Aren" -> "Storm Elixir" [weight=5];
   "Storm Crystal" -> "Storm Elixir";
   
   "Relon Aren" -> "Ward Elixir" [weight=5];
   "Ward Crystal" -> "Ward Elixir";
   
   "Relon Aren" -> "Pure Elixir" [weight=5];
   "Frost Crystal" -> "Pure Elixir";
   Fireheart -> "Pure Elixir"
   "Storm Crystal" -> "Pure Elixir";
   "Ward Crystal" -> "Pure Elixir";
   
   "Relon Aren" -> "Blaze Elixir" [weight=5];
   Fireheart -> "Blaze Elixir";
   "Flare Crystal" -> "Blaze Elixir";
   
   "Frost Elixir" -> Glacium;
   Iron -> Glacium;
   
   "Fire Elixir" -> Incendium;
   Iron -> Incendium;
   
   "Storm Elixir" -> Tempestium;
   Iron -> Tempestium;
   
   "Ward Elixir" -> "Ward Iron";
   Iron -> "Ward Iron";
   
   "Pure Elixir" -> Elementium;
   Iron -> Elementium;
   
   "Blaze Elixir" -> "Blazing Incendium";
   Iron -> "Blazing Incendium";

   "Oil Nut" -> Oil1;
   
   "Tunnel Tube" -> Oil2;
   
   Oil1 -> Oil;
   Oil2 -> Oil;
   
   Truesilver -> Mithril;
   "Emen Aren" -> Mithril;
   
   Levitite -> Levisium;
   "Emen Aren" -> Levisium;
   
   Mithril -> "Bright Silver";
   Silver -> "Bright Silver" [weight=4];
   
   Mithril -> "Royal Bronze";
   Tin -> "Royal Bronze";
   Copper -> "Royal Bronze" [weight=4];
   
   Levisium -> "Verdant Bronze";
   Tin -> "Verdant Bronze";
   Copper -> "Verdant Bronze" [weight=4];
   
   Levisium -> "Green Copper";
   Copper -> "Green Copper" [weight=3];
   
   Mithril -> Orihalcum;
   Gold -> Orihalcum;
   Platinum -> Orihalcum;
   
   "Crystal Glass" -> "Tempered Crystal";
   "Ikal Nabid" -> "Tempered Crystal";
   
   "Crystal Glass" -> "Night Crystal";
   "Midnight Elixir" -> "Night Crystal";
   
   "Crystal Glass" -> "Blood Crystal";
   "Ikal Nabid" -> "Blood Crystal";
   "Quicksilver" -> "Blood Crystal";
   
   "Crystal Glass" -> "Void Crystal";
   "Ikal Nabid" -> "Void Crystal";
   "Quicksilver" -> "Void Crystal";
   "Midnight Elixir" -> "Void Crystal";
   Antimony -> "Void Crystal";   
};

[Mephansteras]

Very cool!

Speaking of Alchemy, I'm thinking of adding in another plant to get oil from. Night Crystal is a bit too hard to get early on right now, and considering that it isn't as good as steel that doesn't seem right.

Has anyone done much with Night Crystal yet? What about Blood Crystal? That, at least, is pretty easy to do.