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Single Giant library workroom. Takes a bit of set-up but once done is done.

90 (40%)

Specific Library sections. Books are in the library and the menu is managable.

111 (49.3%)

Generic library sections with free floating books. Messy, but flexible.

19 (8.4%)

Other: Describe (keep in mind the limits of modding)

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Total Members Voted: 224

[Mephansteras]

Ok, Goatmen are in. Headbutt attack and all. Which is pretty nasty, especially if you don't have a helm on. They killed quite a few opponents by smashing their bits of skull into brains.

Wolfmen are scarier, though, and tend to win any straight fights. Makes sense, I guess.

Also, while looking through the weapon raws I noticed that most two-handed weapons are only two-handed for dwarves, goblins, and the like. Pikes, for example, are only [TWO_HANDED:67500]. Which means that even a slightly smaller than average human should be able to use a pike one-handed.

Time to correct this. I'm switching all two-handed weapons of that sort to [TWO_HANDED:75000]. A really big human could use it one-handed, but otherwise they should be two-handed for all normal races. I've got the Skullcrackers, Bastard Swords, and War Axes for the two-handed to smaller races and one-handed to humans set.

Frost Giants still scoff at the puny normal weapons, of course.

[Dohon]

I'm a huge fan of the Warhammer Beastmen, so I will put them in my install. Are all the Primitive Civs considered friendly? As in, we-will-trade-but-keep-ripping-us-off-and-we-will-rip-you-limb-from-limb?

The idea of one-handing a pike is indeed ... odd. You can't balance it in one hand and two hands are required to accurately use the weapon. But then again, Conan would probably sneer at the "puny man" and throw the entire length of it like it was just a spear.

What's a skullcracker? Huge hammer/mace?

[Mephansteras]

All of the primitive civs are pretty much neutral by default, since I didn't want to make any of them baby snatchers. So you'd have to either start at war with them or tick them off to fight them. So, yeah, minor trading partners for the most part.

Yeah, the Skullcracker is basically a Dwarven maul.

[kilakan]

can't wait, loved the primitive civs in the old one, being able to go from fighting 3 guys to fighting 15 by killing all the liasons was GREAt!

[Dohon]

Heh, yeah, that would be fun. 15 ticked-off civs. The slaughter will be glorious. And bloody Fun. I really wanna see that Skullcracker do its gory business. 

[Mephansteras]

Hehe. Yeah, talk about blood everywhere! At least the primitive civs don't have too much equipment to litter the battlefield with.

Still need to run a bunch of tests with the new two-handed values, but I expect everything will work out ok.

Not too likely that I'll get anything done for the next few days though, since I'm so busy with Comic-Con.

[Lord Shonus]

Here's the Sling and Atl-Atl I made, in case you want to include them.


http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=62199

[Dohon]

Take your time with the new version. We can wait. And in the meantime, it allows me to dip my feet in the 0.31 DF version. I think that going from 40d to your mod and the new version totally unprepared would make my brains melt. Or smashed to a pulp by the frost giants. Both situations result in "auwch".

[Godmouth]

Great mod, been playing it for a while. Just noticed my magma finishing forge refuses to notice magma. Tried pretty much all sides, including digging out everything except for a few tiles for it to stand (so like, 6 channeled tiles with magma underneath, in addition to some on the side for kicks). Still doesn't want to. Also, the magma jar makers workshop doesn't like being placed on channeled tiles at all.

[Mephansteras]

Hmm. I know I've gotten the magma Finishing Forge to work. Not sure why it's ignoring you. I'll check where I have it set up in one of my saves. I'll have to check the magma jar maker, I don't think I actually tested that one.

Also, 31.11 does have some raw changes that I haven't had time to check out too much on what they do. So I'm not sure if 2.21 is actually compatible or not.

[kilakan]

It's compatible (as far as I can tell) since that is what I'm playing right now.

[Scaraban]

coulb b im retarded *cough* ACT 32 *cough* but i would really appreciate sum more in-depth info on wtf goes where, just 2 b sure i dont royally fuck up sumthing

[Dohon]

It all goes into the raw\objects folder. Overwrite if prompted.

I noticed that there is a file called "CivilizationForge.README" in the download. Shouldn't it be "CivilizationForge_README.txt" or something akin to it? I haven't actually tried the mod itself though, but I'm a hoarder and I keep the latest version of mods securely in storage. In case the world ends or something. And so, I noticed that it had a file with a rather odd extension.

[Mephansteras]

Yeah, Dohon has the instructions correct.

Having a file just called README or with a README extension is an old convention. It makes finding README files really easy, since they have this nice blaring extension telling you that they're not just another file for the program. So I've used that convention here. It should open in any text editor just fine.

Also, I've finished looking at the file changes for 31.11 and 31.12. A few things that might matter eventually, but nothing that should break your games. I'll see about getting 2.22 up with corrected files either tonight or tomorrow, but you should be fine using Civilization Forge with the latest version of DF until then.

[Scaraban]

so don't move any entries into appropriate raws?