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[alfie275]

Just put the dwarfs with babys in marksdwarve squads.

[Tormy]

I'm Mr. Horrible:

I think you just shouldn't have chicks in the military.

It's the historically correct option :-D

Hm, do you ever heard about Joan of Arc for example? 

[Granite26]

Hm, do you ever heard about Joan of Arc for example? 

Ayup...  Didn't say you shouldn't be able to, just that the easiest way to deal with the (historically accurate) problem of females getting preggers is to not let them be soldiers in your fort.

As previously mentioned, if you don't have reliable control over your fertility, 6 months of (debilitating) pregnancy plus ~6 months of breast feeding is costly.  Add to that the decreased muscle mass in a time period where strength of arms was the determining factor in combat proficiency, and you've got a recipe for keeping women out of the army.

[mickel]

Infants may be a difficult conclusion, but I'd love to see children getting toys and playing with each other; maybe sparring with toy hammers and toy axes, making shoddy crafts to show to their parents with mini-forges (Urist McDad is ecstatic. His son showed him a toy craft he made recently.), etc.

That's one thing I've been missing. Parents actually caring about their children in Dwarf Fortress. Beyond being upset when the kid they left to wander around outside without supervision has his face eaten by a wolf, that is.

Ever meet a new parent? Ever get them to stop talking about the new and exciting burbling noises their baby did just last night? If you did, please tell me how you managed it. They really ought to care a little bit about their children, at least. A party when their child kills his or her first goblin and stuff like that.

[Granite26]

Don't read if you like to be happy...

You're projecting a lot of modern culture on our dwarves.

[mickel]

Hm, do you ever heard about Joan of Arc for example? 

One of the reasons we've heard about her was because she was so unique in being a female soldier. 

[Hectonkhyres]

Hm, do you ever heard about Joan of Arc for example? 

One of the reasons we've heard about her was because she was so unique in being a female soldier. 

And that the story ended with her going crazy and being set on fire. This is not an example you want to use in your argument.

[Mel_Vixen]

Hm, do you ever heard about Joan of Arc for example? 

Ayup...  Didn't say you shouldn't be able to, just that the easiest way to deal with the (historically accurate) problem of females getting preggers is to not let them be soldiers in your fort.

As previously mentioned, if you don't have reliable control over your fertility, 6 months of (debilitating) pregnancy plus ~6 months of breast feeding is costly.  Add to that the decreased muscle mass in a time period where strength of arms was the determining factor in combat proficiency, and you've got a recipe for keeping women out of the army.

Well to slowly shrinking degree you can work hard and train for the first Months of the. Getting in shape is also relativly fast if you were in shape before the pregnancy.

Daycare makes absolutely no sense for a medieval setting. For one thing, formula didn't exist for another 500 years and without breast milk the kids either perished or grew up weak.

Thats is false info. The fisrt mention of an Amme (wet-nurse) is done 1780 B.C. in Agypt . This womans did also feed the children with theyr own breastmilk. You can also feed a children with other Milks as substitutes for mothers milk thought it was not as healthy. A good amme or nanay can handle up to 3 or 4 babays at once if she does the job a bit longer.

[Neonivek]

That is different from a Nursery...

I mean... technically a Cruchette (ugh... I can't spell it...) existed for just as long anyhow.

You had to pay for Wet nurses and that is far outside the paycheck of a soldier woman.

[Skynet 2.0]

I like the dwarves letting their kin care for the child more than the nursery idea. However, if it was implemented, I think that it should  go under the Health Care labor, rather than adding a new skill just for them.

[Craftling]

Not just nurseries for babies. Nurseries for those bloody insane dwarves so they dont run around without clothes and scaring the normal people.

[Twad]

It IS kind of preposterous that the military mothers carry their infants around, but I like it.  However, nurseries would certainly make sense for other races at least (i.e. humans and elves).  Perhaps you could create a nursery zone, kind of like a meeting area, in which people with the "Infant Care" labor would gather all the babies and try to prevent them from crawling away.  Or something.

And also, keep the kidnaping-prone kids locked up in there.

[Neonivek]

Not just nurseries for babies. Nurseries for those bloody insane dwarves so they dont run around without clothes and scaring the normal people.

Ok... now I KNOW those didn't exist until Modern time... and not just modern time... pretty recent.

Though this is mostly because I'd HARDLY call an insane assilum a Nursery for the insane.

[SirHoneyBadger]

Well, since we're on this topic, one of the new Nobles I suggested in another thread was the Majordomo, and one of the Majordomo's jobs would be to look after any royal kids that came along.

So maybe not a physical, static, designated "nursery", per se, but perhaps there could be a group of dwarfs who's job it was to protect and instruct the younglings.

Maybe that role could be filled by the oldest and most experienced dwarfs in the Fortress?

[Pilsu]

Thats is false info. The fisrt mention of an Amme (wet-nurse) is done 1780 B.C. in Agypt . This womans did also feed the children with theyr own breastmilk. You can also feed a children with other Milks as substitutes for mothers milk thought it was not as healthy. A good amme or nanay can handle up to 3 or 4 babays at once if she does the job a bit longer.

Wet nurse isn't the same thing as nurseries. Not by a long shot. For one, they were employed by the wealthy and carefully chosen, not because mommy needed more time to cook some roasts or go on patrol

And by not as healthy you mean barely digestible


I wouldn't mind nobles employing wet nurses when available but you're stretching it if you think every peasant would use them