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[LegoLord]

misused and misquoted as Kruschschshchchev's "we will bury you"

What, when he took his shoe off at a UN meeting, banged it on his desk, and shouted ~"We will outlast you, we will bury you!"?

I don't remember the exact quote, but my history textbook was very detailed (hence why I don't remember) and I got the impression the guy was in fact insane.

[Jude]

I'm guessing that was an American history book?

Regardless any anything else the guy did, the quote is mistranslated as "We will bury you" (which sounds like a threat). It's better translated as "We will live to see you buried" meaning essentially "we will outlast you."

[LegoLord]

I'm guessing that was an American history book?

There are laws in America against that sort of thing.  Trail of Tears?  In the history textbook.  Slavery?  Segregation?  In the history textbook.  It was also a very new history textbook, so there's no logical reason for what you are implying.

America is a democratic republic.  You can't easily get away with hiding something.  It's nigh-impossible.

Also, you can look it up online.  It's a more difficult search, but there is no restriction on internet viewing in America like there is in Communist countries.  It's actually quite a problem here.

Why do you seem to think everyone and everything is horribly corrupt and full of conspiracy?

[Wiles]

Every single book ever written contains to varying degrees the bias of the author(s) (and often the bias of those funding the author), textbooks included. Think critically and never accept anything you read or are taught as absolute fact and you will be one step ahead of most people.

You'd be surprised how much a government can hide. If a situation is so big and ugly that they can't hide it, well then at least they can try and spin it in a way that lessens its ugliness.

[LegoLord]

Every single book ever written contains to varying degrees the bias of the author(s) (and often the bias of those funding the author), textbooks included. Think critically and never accept anything you read or are taught as absolute fact and you will be one step ahead of most people.

So be a paranoid idiot, you're saying?  No, I don't think it's automatically fact because I read it.  I thought about it and there is simply no logical reason for someone to try to persuade 21st century students that someone from the middle of the 20th century did something he didn't really do.  And the government can't do anything about the internet.  Simple fact.  If they could, they would be keeping us from leaving the country as well.  Essentially, they'd be commies, and I would know nothing of the darker days of America's past.  Also, textbooks are written and revised by many people, not just a single person.  For a single person, the textbook I had would be impossible.

I feel like I'm surrounded by conspiracy theorists.

[Bromor Neckbeard]

Bunch of things...Bush never said God told him to invade Iraq...just implied it. Although you could call that posturing too - he got elected by the religious right and pandered to them a lot.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

The BBC claims that he did.

[Jude]

I'm guessing that was an American history book?

America is a democratic republic.  You can't easily get away with hiding something.  It's nigh-impossible.

Also, you can look it up online.  It's a more difficult search, but there is no restriction on internet viewing in America like there is in Communist countries.  It's actually quite a problem here.

Why do you seem to think everyone and everything is horribly corrupt and full of conspiracy?

I have no idea what most of your post is even about, since it has no relation to what I'm saying other than the first paragraph

There are laws in America against that sort of thing.  Trail of Tears?  In the history textbook.  Slavery?  Segregation?  In the history textbook.  It was also a very new history textbook, so there's no logical reason for what you are implying.

I was implying that an American book, by American authors, might have a tendency to portray America's enemies - even dead ones - more negatively than an objective outsider might.

I feel like I'm surrounded by conspiracy theorists.

Kind of ironic, since you're the ones imputing things into our posts that aren't there...

Anyway, whether or not Bush explicitly said God told him to go to war, he pretty clearly thinks he did. What a failure of democracy the last 8 years was.

[Yanlin]

Sheesh. Here we go again.

[JoshuaFH]

Sheesh. Here we go again.

Just think of it as a rollercoaster ride Yanlin. WHEEEE!

[chaoticag]

Sheesh. Here we go again.

Just think of it as a rollercoaster ride Yanlin. WHEEEE!

Don't, a derailed rollercoaster is not as fun to the participents as a derailed train or thread is.

[Yanlin]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/356393

[LegoLord]

I feel like I'm surrounded by conspiracy theorists.

Kind of ironic, since you're the ones imputing things into our posts that aren't there...

You were implying bias in American education system:
1)  Most of the stuff sold here comes from out of the country.  That book was probably written by several people from all different countries.
2)  Someone else took what you said and built on it, implying America's government controls the media.  Which it can't.  That's why I only quoted that one little bit of your post.

Now stop being so argumentative.  It's annoying.

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

Actually, the CORPORATES run the media.
and government are run by corporates too...

[LegoLord]

and government are run by corporates too...

Not really.  Too many competing companies exist in America.  The Media Corporations are also different from most of those from which politicians come.

Of course, not all politicians are from corporations, either.

[Electronic Phantom]

Um... I feel like I should point out something here.

America is NOT a Democracy.  It's a Constitutional Republic.  The two are not the same.

I feel like this distinction is important.

-(e)EP