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Author Topic: Asperger's Syndrome; Overdiagnosed?  (Read 15947 times)

Ioric Kittencuddler

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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2009, 06:30:37 pm »
I also know a guy with Asperger's.  He just can't get certain things.  Now I'm not particularly socially adept, but this guy is on a different level.  He really just cannot tell that what he's doing is considered inappropriate without being told.  It was so annoying we thought of trying to come up with a code word to warn him when he was going overboard... but the idea never really took off.

The label "Asperger's Syndrome" is allot better than the alternative, "Idiot".
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2009, 09:16:03 pm »
I knew a guy who had aspbergers. He was extremely socially inept, and had fixations of Fox New, Bill O'reily, and Dubya. If anyone said anything even remotely negative about any of these he would fly of the hook and start yelling at whoever said that. It was too bad because in all other respects he was an intelligent guy.

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He really just cannot tell that what he's doing is considered inappropriate without being told.

Exactly like this.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2009, 09:53:30 pm »
Precisely it, someone with aspergers doesn't get what most people will learn society on subconscious level. They need to be told outright.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2009, 12:25:53 am »
An absolutely idiotic (I have rather strong feelings on this matter) teacher from one of my previous schools once misdiagnosed me with asperger's syndrome. MONTHS of weekly visits to a psychologist, just to be told that I did not have Aspergers, as I could, in fact, interpret others social messages. I was smart, and I do have trouble in social situations, but I do not have Asperger's. Didn't stop the teacher though. From then on she was convinced I had Asperger's, and told the entire class (and probably other teachers) something to that effect. Ostracising someone with poor social skills is NOT the solution. Bout the only good thing that came out of that was a book she recommended me

... It was written from the viewpoint of someone with Aspergers
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2009, 12:31:00 am »
Quote from: deadlycairn on February 17, 2009, 12:25:53 am
An absolutely idiotic (I have rather strong feelings on this matter) teacher from one of my previous schools once misdiagnosed me with asperger's syndrome. MONTHS of weekly visits to a psychologist, just to be told that I did not have Aspergers, as I could, in fact, interpret others social messages. I was smart, and I do have trouble in social situations, but I do not have Asperger's. Didn't stop the teacher though. From then on she was convinced I had Asperger's, and told the entire class (and probably other teachers) something to that effect. Ostracising someone with poor social skills is NOT the solution. Bout the only good thing that came out of that was a book she recommended me

... It was written from the viewpoint of someone with Aspergers

Wonder if she had Aspergers...
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2009, 12:34:16 am »
Teacher should not diagnose people.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2009, 06:01:49 am »
Quote from: deadlycairn on February 17, 2009, 12:25:53 am
An absolutely idiotic (I have rather strong feelings on this matter) teacher from one of my previous schools once misdiagnosed me with asperger's syndrome. MONTHS of weekly visits to a psychologist, just to be told that I did not have Aspergers, as I could, in fact, interpret others social messages. I was smart, and I do have trouble in social situations, but I do not have Asperger's. Didn't stop the teacher though. From then on she was convinced I had Asperger's, and told the entire class (and probably other teachers) something to that effect. Ostracising someone with poor social skills is NOT the solution. Bout the only good thing that came out of that was a book she recommended me

... It was written from the viewpoint of someone with Aspergers

Dude. I have a story just like that.

Back in 7th grade, a school board decided that the reason the other kids hate me is not because I'm the little Ukranian smart kid, but because I have Assburgers Aspergers. So they send me to a special class for the entire 7th grade. The class is in another city and I had to wake up every morning at 6AM and return home at 4PM.

The school didn't serve breakfast and the lunch was only free to city resident retards. Since I came from another city, I didn't get it. It was way too expensive for me to get. So I had to get breakfast at 6AM. Imagine my poor mom getting up at 5:30AM just to get me ready for school. During that entire year I was going through your story. Psychologists telling me there's nothing wrong with me, diagnoses telling there's nothing wrong with me, etc.

They still refuse to cave in. They think I have social issues. They are hellbent sure on the "fact" that me being smart and Ukrainian has nothing to do with it. Because other kids' egos do not exist. You know what it's like right? When you can achieve something without effort while others spend a ton of time doing it? People feel like I'm getting my good grades and my smartness (Smartness isn't a word is it?) naturally. That I didn't earn it. That I don't deserve it. They usually think that I was just born smart and nothing they can do will allow them to be smart as me. So they just torture me. Back then, I didn't have muscles and such. I was a complete social shut-in because of school.

Recently though (Recently = last couple of years) I've been learning Krav Maga and pumping some iron on the local screwpumps. I've also been self-teaching myself parkour. Now suddenly people don't want to harass me because I can harass back. I hate kids/teenagers. (Still a teenager. Working on a way to fix it.)

Whoa. I just told part of my life story here. Sorry.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2009, 06:11:44 am »
The thing with Asperger's is that you learn to hide it, because you're intelligent enough to figure out that "Hey, people don't like me when I do that..."

Mine was quite prominent when I was 9 through to when I was about 14. Then I learned to calm down, laugh at myself more, and how not to be an arrogant dick. Well, okay maybe not that last one.

Now, I'm 17 and most people wouldn't pick it straight away. But when people with prior experience get a bit deeper, they find the signs (and they're there... they're the same with anyone with Asperger's and it is so weird to find out there are people out there who think just like you).

So yeah, Asperger's generally needs to be diagnosed early and often. Most importantly often.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2009, 06:15:39 am »
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2009, 07:12:13 am »
I see no relevancy of the picture to the topic...

Anyway, I have a friend. He doesn't have said disease, but has been diagnosed to have ADHD as far as I know you get that from birth, and a few years ago he wasn't like that. He acts like that because he BELIEVES that he has ADHD, also he had a traffic accident which resulted in concussion. Now he doesn't study, people at school treat him like trash, his own parents treat him like trash, he can't get over with himself and completely given up on life. There is a way to change his life, but because of lack of confidence he isn't going to do a thing with his life.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2009, 09:39:23 am »
His case is a case of hypochondria, and I suggest he sees a psychologist about this. Hypnosis might help him relax a bit, so a hypnotherapist isn't out of the question, but I'm pretty sure that most psychologists are equiped with the knowledge of how to perform hypnosis.

If he's taking any medication for it, then that might be the problem. Simply replace them with sugar pills (or don't, as I think it probably crosses the unethical line, have a doctor do it instead.)

If you can convince him of some cure to ADHD that might work too, but remember that even believing in the disease can lead to symptoms appearing, and you might be wrong as well.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2009, 09:45:26 am »
I believe the term you are looking for is autohypochondria.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2009, 12:38:05 pm »
Learning to laugh at yourself is a cure for everything - even if some people don't get the punchline  :)

The teacher thought I had Asperger's because I didn't really get on with the students and was smart. Back then I had a MASSIVE ego (which I've toned down a bit), and not nearly enough restraint.

In a very low-end public school, I read books at lunchtime. Most of the people there still read picture books, I kid you not. I also tend to fly off the handle with little warning when people begin to bother me. Luckily, I left that school after little over half a year.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2009, 12:39:58 pm »
He might have a real sickness after all but, did I mention that he blames ADHD for ALL fails of his entire life, and when he sees me writing my answers on a test and seeing that he doesn't know the answer for the first question he gives up and starts drawing on the back of the test. I don't think depression is the case as this behaviour lasts three years now.
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Re: You don't have Asperger's Syndrome.
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2009, 12:44:36 pm »
Wrongly blaming shit should be classified as a disease.
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