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Protactinium

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Naming the locals.
« on: February 15, 2009, 11:52:16 pm »

I know that your dwarves will name vicious creatures after a murder or two or three.
Once I faced a Giant Bat named "[something] the Genius of Carnages", a bat that killed 16 dwarves of mine. (The mechanic who finally killed the bat was given that same title by me).
I have seen, when embarking on human settlements, children killed by carp and sturgeon and seeing those nasty fishy buggers named for their killing of sentients.

However, there were 6 Batmen hanging around my current site, having never gotten into a scuffle since I first moved in about a year and a half ago. Yet all of a sudden, my dwarves decided to name all 6 of them one after another.

Why? They didn't kill anything. Those wild creatures deserve no names!

Is there a certain time limit (1.5 years?) that if a creature survives to on a map, they get a name?
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 01:06:52 am »

that happened to me too, only with cave swallowmen. maybe something about flying creatures freakin' out the populace?
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 01:16:41 am »

I've had that happen with batmen and cave swallowmen myself.  I'm pretty puzzled by it myself.
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 03:00:52 am »

Yeah, me too. Does it happen to any non flying creatures?
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 03:19:15 am »

I'm quite sure I've had this happen to giant rats and naked mole dogs, both of which don't fly. My theory is that even if the creature hasn't killed anyone significant it still can attain a name if the dwarves are "exposed" to it for a long enough time. Flying creature being much more likely to stumble into your dwarves, are simply just more likely to get names. Also, weaker, less-mobile land citters are more likely to get slaughtered before getting a name anyways. BTW, I don't think creatures named this way will be hostile when tamed, but its all still a hypothesis, not a proven theory.
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 05:54:20 am »

If a creature stays on the map for a long enough time, the dwarves may name it. Or they may not. It's kind of random.

But for the most part, this only happens with chasm, cave, lava and underground water creatures. Never heard of it affecting anything else.
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 06:52:56 am »

my dwarves once named a Gremlin just because he sat there at the lowest floor of the chasm. its probably that the dwarfs name something after a while. maybe this is something about thoughts. a dwarf that like gremlins maybe gave him the name but thats just a theory
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2009, 09:26:15 pm »

I think if the animal kills other things, like deer or whatever, it might get a name also. Ive also embarked on chasms to see prenamed creatures; dont know what that means.

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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 09:48:34 pm »

I think if the animal kills other things, like deer or whatever, it might get a name also. Ive also embarked on chasms to see prenamed creatures; dont know what that means.
Nope.

Only way things get names are by killing named creatures.
That's right.
All civilized creatures have names due to being, well, civilized, so killing even a baby or a child that's not notable gets an animal a name.
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2009, 10:10:57 pm »

Killing all of my cats earned a couple of mole rat's their names.
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2009, 10:21:25 pm »


 Note:

 Killing things gives entities titles.
 Being around with no name eventually gets them a name. It's not like pets have to kill something before being considered a pet.

 Note the above sentence refers to the fact that every pet has a name.
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2009, 03:25:52 am »

I've always imagined this being like the boogey man. He never killed anyone, noone has gotten a clear look at him, but everyone knows he lives in that cave and makes the weird noises we hear coming from it at night. It's just a way to anthropomorphisise the feared and unknown. The creature is both real and a myth. Like the way the gobbos in LOTR knew of Shelob the spider.

(except Shelob preyed and killed things, but there were lots of other creatures that rarely interacted with the races but earned both name and legend. You know what I mean)
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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 01:28:19 pm »


 i had some batman get named once.I don't think it killed anything.dwarf child went crazy,it just so happen he couldn't stand batmen.i put him in the burial stockpile.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2009, 01:41:07 pm »

All civilized creatures have names due to being, well, civilized, so killing even a baby or a child that's not notable gets an animal a name.

Not exactly. All creature than are [INTELLIGENT] or [CAN_SPEAK] get names without having to kill anyone. If your goblins (or orcs, or whoever) [CAN_CIV][CAN_LEARN], they'll attack you but none of them will have names until they get a kill.  Some of the leaders will already have names from historical kills.

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Re: Naming the locals.
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2009, 09:28:56 pm »

All civilized creatures have names due to being, well, civilized, so killing even a baby or a child that's not notable gets an animal a name.

Not exactly. All creature than are [INTELLIGENT] or [CAN_SPEAK] get names without having to kill anyone. If your goblins (or orcs, or whoever) [CAN_CIV][CAN_LEARN], they'll attack you but none of them will have names until they get a kill.  Some of the leaders will already have names from historical kills.



In that case, what tag should I put into my orcs that make them have names automatically rather than having a bunch of "the orc, 206" in my View Kills section of a dwarf's profile?
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