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Yanlin

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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2009, 02:02:26 pm »

I can't wait for suicide to be illegal. That'll be funny.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2009, 03:53:11 pm »

Isn't it already?

Some of the worst cases I've heard about (most likely urband legend but who knows?) are about people being killed by the police when resisting arrest after attempted suicide. Yes I know "suicide by cop" is sometimes practiced, but this is slightly different. I also remember hearing of a woman who sued the cops who didn't allow her to jump off from somewhere. Again, I don't know whether it's true or not.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2009, 03:55:54 pm »

Technically there's no law against suicide. Though suicide can count as murder as suiciding is considered killing. Even if you kill yourself. But of course, you can't arrest the killer. So this is moot.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2009, 04:00:29 pm »

With the way the laws work, I wouldn't be surprised to hear a story about a mass murderer being mortally wounded while escaping police, being resuscitated and healed, attempting suicide at the hospital, saved and resuscitated again, put into restraints, fully healed, brought to justice and sentenced to death.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2009, 04:02:38 pm »

Technically there's no law against suicide. Though suicide can count as murder as suiciding is considered killing. Even if you kill yourself. But of course, you can't arrest the killer. So this is moot.
Your jail will fill up with a giant purple cloud, but you can arrest the killer.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2009, 04:03:10 pm »

No. Literally. You cannot arrest a dead body as the dead body is outside jurisdiction.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2009, 04:04:33 pm »

No. Literally. You cannot arrest a dead body as the dead body is outside jurisdiction.

Elaborate?
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2009, 04:39:23 pm »

I believe the saying is, "render onto Caesar what is Caesar's, render onto God what is God's."

You might not be able to arrest a dead body, but you can prosecute a dead person and sentence him.

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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2009, 04:59:35 pm »

Among other things, the multiple-life-sentences thing makes me think of exactly this. It would make sense in context of a scientifically advanced society that allows for resurrection of a dead body. So, clone a person several times, let him die in prison of old age, put his brain (maybe not physically) into another body so it keeps the memory of death, let him die again, resurrect again, ad infinitum or as much as the sentence requires. Cheating the system by suicide is not allowed.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2009, 05:11:46 pm »

My brother's ex-girlfriend once tried to set my niece on fire. But my family barely got custody of her after that. I guess it's normal in Alabama.

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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2009, 06:00:50 pm »

Suicide's legality generally works like this- if you succeed, you're dead, no-one can charge you with anything. If you fail and only manage to get yourself hospitalized, you'll be incarcerated untill you're no longer deemed to be a danger to yourself, usually through lots of councilling or medication.

You'd have to really piss people off to get charged for attempting suicide though, don't know how you'd manage it. It tends to just be used to keep you in one place 'till you're sane again.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2009, 06:15:46 pm »

I think I've read on dumblaws.com that there was some county in Neck of the Woods, USA where suicide was punishable by death. It was a long time ago, though, so I might be misremembering.
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2009, 06:17:32 pm »

One would think punishing attempted suicide with life would be more appropriate. :P
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2009, 04:18:46 pm »

No. Literally. You cannot arrest a dead body as the dead body is outside jurisdiction.

Elaborate?

By law, dead bodies are not citizens of any country. As a requirement for being a citizen is to... Be alive... Since congress crackjaws believe in souls and shit, you cannot arrest the soul because it's outside of the jurisdiction. Since arresting a dead body will accomplish nothing and it is considered that the person is the soul and not the physical body... Basically, religion fucked our laws system.

P.S. Is this the new "Boy shoots mother" thread?
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Re: Australian throws his daughter from a bridge to her death
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2009, 04:35:02 pm »

So what do you want them to do? Arrest corpses?
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