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[JoshuaFH]

VN threads usually derail... but not like this...

not like this...

[codezero]

The article only blames acute psychiatric distress as the reason he couldn't be at court the following morning, so they've postponed the first hearing. He'll probably be in remand for a couple of months before he's convicted guilty (if he is). It's hard to believe you could get off on insanity for that, at least in this country, and even if he did he'd be locked up in an asylum instead.

[Agdune]

By the way, would someone who was a proficient swimmer be able to survive that?

No. The thing that kills isn't the water itself, it's more the fact that you're hitting it after accellerating in a 50 metre drop. Unless your landing is utterly perfect or the water is allready broken before you hit it, it's really just like landing on solid ground. Smashed bones ripped tissues etc.

Anyway, unfortunate incident but really, at least he did something public with his first kid, god knows, if he had just killed her in his living room he probably would've had time to finish off the other kids too. See? Bright side.

[Psyco Jelly]

My brother's ex-girlfriend once tried to set my niece on fire. But my family barely got custody of her after that. I guess it's normal in Alabama.

[Cheeetar]

My brother's ex-girlfriend once tried to set my niece on fire. But my family barely got custody of her after that. I guess it's normal in Alabama.

Wait, what?

[chaoticag]

This is almost as bad as the story of the Saudi guy that got married because he wanted a child, then killed her because he couldn't deal with her any more.
I'm not sure if this is an urban legend in these parts or no.

People ought to take anger management classes before they are alowed to have children.

[Il Palazzo]

However, I always wonder why suicidal people jump off bridges. Is it because it's convenient? Does it have some sort of symbolic meaning? Is it because it's the only high drop they can think of?

Isn't it the fear of painful death? You know, they might think that, logically, if water is so much softer than e.g. concrete, it will kill them more, erm, delicately. "Killing me softly" etc.
Or the fact that you don't leave a shapeless puddle of bones and skin and fat on the asphalt for people to look at, instead leaving a bloated, putrid buoy serving as a fast-food drive-in for carp, but who am I to question suicidal people's aesthetics?

Wait, you didn't explictly say that it was a bridge over river. Oh, well. Another meaningless post.

[G-Flex]

I think jumping off a great height is just seen as more dramatic/romantic, in a sense, than other methods, for both the person involved and others.

[Flintus10]

Man seriously to kill a four year old girl when she was excited to think she was about to have her first day at school...and in front of her two brothers. The full story is just horrific and I hope this guy goes away for a loooooong time, it's mroe than he deserves.

[Agdune]

You did get the whole insane thing yeah? Like he'll be in a psyche ward for a very long time as he's a danger to himself/others, sense of justice has nothing to do with it.

I hate that attitude. "More than he/she/they deserve". The system is not designed for punishment, it's to prevent crimes from recurring.

[Flintus10]

If you have heard the full story then I can respect that opinion, I just can't understand what he did and he isn't so insane that he didn't know what he was doing to my knowledge (if I am wrong or have heard different feel free to say so) and he is then a danger to his otehr children and obviously his ex, therefore should be removed from society. In my opinion anyways

[Yanlin]

Hmm. This thread is lacking humor.

Yanlin, legendary comedian clears throat.

I bet he was a short person.

[Flintus10]

rofl that instantly broke any ill feelings I had, my hat goes off to you Yanlin. 

[Makrond]

Obvious inaluct troll is obvious...

Anyway, yeah, this was horrible. I guess his rationalisation was something along the lines of "If I can't have my kids, no one can" or something.

Completely, completely and utterly insane thing to do. I'm glad the police arrived as quickly as they did (even though they still couldn't save the girl - if there'd been any chance that she could have lived, she probably would have due to the quick response by various emergency services).

Apparently he was remorseful afterwards. One has to wonder how remorseful you can be when you had more than enough opportunity to stop well and truly before anyone got hurt.

[Awayfarer]

...I always wonder why suicidal people jump off bridges. Is it because it's convenient? Does it have some sort of symbolic meaning? Is it because it's the only high drop they can think of?

They're high and they're available to the public. In urban areas you have buildings, sure, but not everyone lives in a town with a tall enough structure. Even if you do live in a city you don't really have access to every big building you see. Security in some skyscrapers is probably a problem as well. On the flipside you could find a cliff out in the middle of nowhere but nobody would be around to see and visibility is often a big part of jumping. This also doesn't help if you live in Kansas.

There's also the romance factor. There's at least one suicide from the Golden Gate bridge every year. Why? It's a major landmark. There are other bridges around San-Fran but to my knowledge they're not popular destinations for attempted suicides.