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[Little]

Why does it take so long for the cops to find you now? I figure if I go on a six person killing spree, they should be on me like flies. I can sit in the homeless shelter and nothing will happen. You should have to operate with a degree of subtleness before you burst onto the scene.

And I don't think they should bother responding and reporting about minor events in a crackhouse.

[mainiac]

The heat that brings police attention is now linked to the building, not the people in the building.  I think that a serial murderer would bring a police siege if you waited long enough.  But getting a siege to happen is a slower process generally.

[Little]

Should the heat required for a siege be lowered?

[cinque]

Historical fact - for about two months, after kidnapping Patty Hearst and robbing a bank, the Symbionese Liberation Army lived 12 blocks away from the FBI's San Francisco HQ - on the same street (Golden Gate Ave.) . . .

[Servant Corps]

Should the heat required for a siege be lowered?

And further lowered based on privacy laws? The more conservative privacy laws are, the easier it is for the Police to track you down...

[a1s]

if you think about it from a practical point of view, there should be no problems to hide a mass murderer, if she doesn't have to go outside. interestingly, this is modeled in the game (to a limited degree)- each time a wanted criminal does stuff in public he will have a chance to get confronted by police. it is assumed that when you don't go outside, some lowly initiate brings you food and message from other members of LCS (although this isn't modeled).

perhaps, LCS members should generate heat (only):
a)when they go on missions (as they can be seen by speeding cameras or passerbies)
b)when they do public stuff (in addition to the getting caught functionality already in the game)
c)if they are the dedicated food bringer for the commune (this technically falls under b, but it's worth mentioning, and it's probably less anyway)

[EuchreJack]

Fact is, the current siege system is defective.  I'm hoping it get rebalanced in the next release.  Till then, just don't kidnap anyone, and don't print secret documents, and you'll be fine.  Not certain if I'm missing anything, but that's most of it.  By the way, if you do print secret documents, the place that hacked the docs can get raided (though that may be because I was too lazy to constantly move documents).

[Jonathan S. Fox]

You need a minimum combined heat value of crimes totaled up among the people at the site to get raided; usually if you're not being raided for a sufficiently long time, it's because you haven't committed enough crimes. I don't know what the target value is; it might be something like 50, which is very high, and would explain why you're not getting raided. Note also that having a small number of people at a location will provide greater heat protection; a lone person is much less likely to be raided than a dozen, even in the homeless shelter. That's the theory anyway.

[Little]

Maybe lower it to 25 or 10 or something.

[Neonivek]

Maybe lower it to 25 or 10 or something.

I think it was raised because people were complaining that they didn't like to be raided... Ever

So the score of 50 is so that you can kidnap tons and tons of people, do drugs, and steal without getting raided while people who want to win by mass murdering the world will get raided.

Note: This isn't my oppinion... Heck I think people who try to win without violence have it too easy.

[Rezan]

For a moment there I was going "What? Make it EASIER to get raided?" because I tend to be ... excessively violent. I'm sure my organizations has at least a few thousand deaths on their consciences before every victory.

The more I play this game the more I think I'd appreciate one less aimed towards satire. Alas, I cannot code.

[E. Albright]

I've actually been raided by the police from a single liberal sitting around in the homeless shelter committing computer crimes. Not hacking, mind you. Disrupting forums, trolling, etc. FWIW.

[Neonivek]

I've actually been raided by the police from a single liberal sitting around in the homeless shelter committing computer crimes. Not hacking, mind you. Disrupting forums, trolling, etc. FWIW.

Hmmmm... Well that certainly makes sense if the Conservatives were powerful at the time.

[chaoticag]

Hacker: "CONSERVATIVES R STUPID LOLOLOLOLOL"
Head of Police: "My God... send in a gang unit!"

[Neonivek]

Hacker: "CONSERVATIVES R STUPID LOLOLOLOLOL"
Head of Police: "My God... send in a gang unit!"

Goodness... I don't know who to root for in that scenario... however I am steering towards the police.